WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:01.815 Good evening all. Good evening to the 00:00:01.839 --> 00:00:03.736 gallery. First, I'd like to start with 00:00:03.760 --> 00:00:05.735 the acknowledgement of country. The 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:07.656 Burnie City Council acknowledges that 00:00:07.680 --> 00:00:10.680 every part of Australia is, always, and 00:00:10.719 --> 00:00:13.416 always will be Aboriginal land. Burnie 00:00:13.440 --> 00:00:15.896 City Council pays respect to the Pakana 00:00:15.920 --> 00:00:18.456 Palawa original owners and cultural 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:20.616 custodians of all the lands and 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:23.640 waterways across Trouwanna, Lutruwita, Tasmania 00:00:23.840 --> 00:00:26.696 upon which Pataway Burnie is situated and 00:00:26.720 --> 00:00:29.255 where our council meets. 00:00:29.279 --> 00:00:31.095 It is noted that the open session of the 00:00:31.119 --> 00:00:33.656 council meeting will be video recorded 00:00:33.680 --> 00:00:36.375 and live streamed. The video recording will 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:38.296 be made available to the public in 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:40.535 accordance with regulation 33 of the 00:00:40.559 --> 00:00:42.936 local government meeting procedures 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:45.736 regulations for 2015. The live stream is 00:00:45.760 --> 00:00:46.855 accessible from 00:00:46.879 --> 00:00:49.879 www.burnie.tas.gov.au 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:51.576 Participation in person at a council 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:53.496 meeting is considered that attendees 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.520 have given their consent to council to 00:00:56.640 --> 00:00:58.855 broadcast images and speech to be video 00:00:58.879 --> 00:01:01.816 recorded and live streamed. I also need 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:04.535 to make an opening statement in 00:01:04.559 --> 00:01:06.696 accordance with the regulation 8 of the 00:01:06.720 --> 00:01:08.536 local government meeting procedures 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:10.936 regulations 2025. 00:01:10.960 --> 00:01:12.856 All persons attending the meeting are to 00:01:12.880 --> 00:01:15.736 be respectful of and considerate towards 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.455 other persons attending the meeting. 00:01:18.479 --> 00:01:20.696 language and conduct at that meeting of 00:01:20.720 --> 00:01:22.936 the meeting that could be perceived as 00:01:22.960 --> 00:01:25.336 offensive, defamatory or threatening to 00:01:25.360 --> 00:01:27.256 a person attending the meeting or 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.016 listening to the recording is not 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:31.095 acceptable. 00:01:31.119 --> 00:01:33.976 Thank you. I would now ask Lc Webb 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:35.896 from the Burnie Salvation Army to please 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:38.920 say a prayer. Thank you. 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:41.016 Good evening. 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.095 Lord God, we thank you for this 00:01:43.119 --> 00:01:46.119 opportunity to gather tonight and serve 00:01:46.399 --> 00:01:48.936 our community. I pray you would grant us 00:01:48.960 --> 00:01:51.496 wisdom in our decisions, respect in our 00:01:51.520 --> 00:01:54.055 discussions, and guidance in our work so 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:56.936 that all we do may be for the good of 00:01:56.960 --> 00:01:59.256 those we represent. Bless this meeting 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:02.055 and all those present. Amen. 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:04.135 Thank you, Lc. Could I also note an 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:07.159 apology for Mayor Teeny Brumby? Thank you. 00:02:09.119 --> 00:02:10.935 Do we have any council declaration of 00:02:10.959 --> 00:02:12.456 interest? 00:02:12.480 --> 00:02:14.536 There are none. 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:15.976 Confirmation of minutes from the open 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:17.656 session meeting of council held on the 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.376 24th of March 2026. There's a 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:21.976 recommendation there. Could I please 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:23.896 have a mover? 00:02:23.920 --> 00:02:26.920 Thank you councelor Pease and seconded 00:02:26.959 --> 00:02:29.959 councelor Keygan. 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:32.776 All those in favor raise your right 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:35.416 hand. That's unanimous. Thank you so 00:02:35.440 --> 00:02:38.215 much. 00:02:38.239 --> 00:02:40.456 Now we have public question time. Public 00:02:40.480 --> 00:02:42.376 questions on notice. There are two 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:45.400 questions. Thank you. 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.456 the I advise that the public 00:02:48.480 --> 00:02:50.616 questions received by Tuesday 21st of 00:02:50.640 --> 00:02:52.935 April 2026 were treated as public 00:02:52.959 --> 00:02:55.575 questions on notice and contained in the 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:58.599 agenda together with their response. 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.135 Thank you. 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:04.056 Page 13 on your agenda is the public 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:06.696 questions without notice. There were no 00:03:06.720 --> 00:03:09.720 questions received after 5:00 pm on 00:03:09.760 --> 00:03:11.736 Tuesday and before 5:00 p.m. on the 00:03:11.760 --> 00:03:14.215 Friday prior to the council meeting. 00:03:14.239 --> 00:03:16.295 Thank you. 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:19.319 Page 14 is a motion on notice permission 00:03:19.440 --> 00:03:22.135 to publish photos of children. There's a 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:24.376 motion there from councelor Ken Dorsey. 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:27.336 Ken, you'll be moving that motion. 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.256 Thank you. A second for that motion. 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:30.935 Thank you councelor Aitken. Councelor 00:03:30.959 --> 00:03:32.536 Dorsey, would you like to speak to that 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:33.575 motion? 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:35.656 yes, I would actually. This came up 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.135 while I was looking at photos from the 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:41.159 Easter event that council put on 00:03:41.440 --> 00:03:42.696 and I have serious concerns about 00:03:42.720 --> 00:03:44.775 current council and counselor 00:03:44.799 --> 00:03:46.775 postings on social media. Many contain 00:03:46.799 --> 00:03:49.799 images of children. Now, are they 00:03:49.920 --> 00:03:52.456 authorized? Now, we live in 00:03:52.480 --> 00:03:54.376 an era where image published online is 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:55.976 permanent. A photo of a child posted 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:58.056 onto a council Facebook page or included 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:00.135 in a counselor's social media post does 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:02.456 not disappear. It's index, shared, and 00:04:02.480 --> 00:04:04.135 can exist indefinitely in places beyond 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:06.536 our control. Children can't consent to 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:08.536 having their pictures taken. Only the 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.376 parents can. You have to be 18 for say 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.400 to consent. There are numerous 00:04:14.720 --> 00:04:16.856 risks associated with this. And I was 00:04:16.880 --> 00:04:18.935 down there and I deliberately didn't 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:20.536 take any picture. I actually went 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:22.936 through my Facebook post recently and I 00:04:22.960 --> 00:04:24.296 don't have any. So, I'm pretty happy 00:04:24.320 --> 00:04:26.615 about that. But I was very careful not 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:28.856 to take pictures of children because 00:04:28.880 --> 00:04:30.216 there's a lot of reasons. And the main 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:33.096 one that I saw was identity protection. 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.096 Now, I know from formerly owning a 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:36.615 childcare center and even with Park 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:39.639 Run, there are there are people hiding 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.216 here. Not necessarily because it's 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:44.376 Burnie, but they've left 00:04:44.400 --> 00:04:47.016 might be the reason they're hiding 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:48.936 here but they've come from an 00:04:48.960 --> 00:04:51.096 abusive relationship. 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.096 And so there there's battered women that 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:54.376 bring their children in. They're 00:04:54.400 --> 00:04:55.976 in hiding. They don't want people to see 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:57.175 their pictures. And if you go to a 00:04:57.199 --> 00:04:59.096 public event and someone takes your 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.816 pictures, they might see it. And I even 00:05:01.840 --> 00:05:03.976 know at Park Run where there were 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:05.416 rules that people put up their hands 00:05:05.440 --> 00:05:07.175 like this to stop pictures being taken. 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:10.199 For that reason by taking random 00:05:10.320 --> 00:05:11.576 pictures of children attending 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.056 functions, you put them at risk. 00:05:14.080 --> 00:05:15.576 The option they have is not to attend 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:17.416 functions. Consent. Children can't 00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:19.576 consent. Inappropriate use. There's also 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:21.735 the risk that people will use these 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.056 images inappropriately. 00:05:24.080 --> 00:05:25.895 Now there I did put a case study in 00:05:25.919 --> 00:05:27.895 there of a school in New South Wales 00:05:27.919 --> 00:05:30.919 or Victoria where someone had used them 00:05:31.039 --> 00:05:34.039 for pornographic images. So once you put 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:37.576 them there, they are for anyone to copy 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:40.600 and use and I want to I want to be 00:05:40.880 --> 00:05:42.136 pretty clear about this. This isn't 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:43.816 about restricting community engagement 00:05:43.840 --> 00:05:45.416 or people taking pictures of where they 00:05:45.440 --> 00:05:48.440 are, but just to be careful and 00:05:48.479 --> 00:05:51.096 with written consent, it gives you a 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:52.376 clear record and protects both the 00:05:52.400 --> 00:05:53.735 council and the family. Children 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.216 photographed at a community event at age 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:57.816 seven may still have that image 00:05:57.840 --> 00:06:00.376 circulating when they're 17. 00:06:00.400 --> 00:06:02.536 Counselors using child images on social 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:04.936 media promote themselves or to say that 00:06:04.960 --> 00:06:06.856 they're at a certain place, essentially 00:06:06.880 --> 00:06:09.880 using children of props without consent. 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:12.216 This motion cost nothing to implement 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:14.216 and reduces risk considerably. It 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:16.056 signals that this council takes child 00:06:16.080 --> 00:06:17.895 safety seriously in practice, not just 00:06:17.919 --> 00:06:19.895 in policy. Every school in this country 00:06:19.919 --> 00:06:22.919 now operates on this basis. Um the 00:06:24.080 --> 00:06:25.895 acting mayor would now know that you 00:06:25.919 --> 00:06:27.496 just you just don't do it. It's a 00:06:27.520 --> 00:06:29.336 standard practice. Child care centers do 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.895 the same thing. You do not post pictures 00:06:31.919 --> 00:06:34.856 of children without parental consent. 00:06:34.880 --> 00:06:37.096 The like I said the cost is negligible. 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.576 A simple consent form at event or 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:41.496 registration is required. the benefit to 00:06:41.520 --> 00:06:43.895 community is trust the child safety and 00:06:43.919 --> 00:06:45.656 this council's credibility on ch on 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:47.576 child safe communities is significant 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.136 this is really actually a moral question 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:52.536 do you want to use these images and and 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:54.136 what's the risk to the person when you 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:56.615 do um I know other councils I was 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:58.056 reading about other councils that if 00:06:58.080 --> 00:06:59.735 they go to a council event or whatever 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:01.336 they put a wristband if they're willing 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.496 to have their photo taken or the parent 00:07:03.520 --> 00:07:05.096 the parent has to consent to having the 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.096 child's photo taken so if you take a 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.575 selfie and there's children in the 00:07:09.599 --> 00:07:10.936 background you're you potentially 00:07:10.960 --> 00:07:13.496 putting them at risk. So, it's a 00:07:13.520 --> 00:07:14.856 simple motion that we just get 00:07:14.880 --> 00:07:16.776 permission before we do things. 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.136 Thank you, Councelor Dorsey. Councelor 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.056 Aitken seconding that, would you like a 00:07:20.080 --> 00:07:22.376 comment? 00:07:22.400 --> 00:07:24.295 Yes, completely agree with what 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.319 councelor Dorsey said 00:07:27.840 --> 00:07:30.696 I don't use photos of other people's 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:33.496 children in my socials when I have 00:07:33.520 --> 00:07:36.520 socials 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:40.120 at at the end of the day 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.720 I believe the only time people are using 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.776 photos of children and other people's 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.800 children are self-promotion. 00:07:50.479 --> 00:07:52.056 that's pretty much what it comes 00:07:52.080 --> 00:07:55.080 down to. If you go to an event it's a 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.936 look at me I'm here, and we're all 00:07:58.960 --> 00:08:01.960 fantastic and the kids are doing what 00:08:02.479 --> 00:08:05.479 kids do 00:08:06.080 --> 00:08:08.455 there's no other reason I think other 00:08:08.479 --> 00:08:10.376 than self-promotion. The kids aren't 00:08:10.400 --> 00:08:12.455 exactly or shouldn't be on social media 00:08:12.479 --> 00:08:15.015 looking at themselves 00:08:15.039 --> 00:08:16.696 that's true too. 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:18.615 They're not on social media sharing it 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.639 between their socials because 00:08:21.759 --> 00:08:24.295 they're not technically not allowed to. 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:27.319 it it is it is self-promotion. 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.879 I think it's very bad practice 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:34.616 and I think councelor Dorsey is right. 00:08:34.640 --> 00:08:36.935 The way especially in this day and age 00:08:36.959 --> 00:08:39.959 of technology, the way some of these 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:43.000 images are being used 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.039 does not have good intentions. So I 00:08:46.959 --> 00:08:49.576 think that out of decency you would just 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.600 agree to refrain from using images of 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:55.656 children and other people's children on 00:08:55.680 --> 00:08:58.056 your socials. 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:00.136 Thank you, Councelor Aitken. Any councelor 00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:00.776 Keygan 00:09:00.800 --> 00:09:03.800 Yeah thank you a couple of points 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:07.240 on this motion. Whilst I don't have any 00:09:08.160 --> 00:09:11.160 issue at all in relation to seeking 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.600 explicit permission, I think the premise 00:09:17.680 --> 00:09:20.680 of this motion or at least the 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.616 contributions that I have heard from 00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:27.336 counselors on this motion already have 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:29.896 operated from a presumption that there 00:09:29.920 --> 00:09:32.216 is not already 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:35.240 explicit permission being sought from 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:39.320 children or from their parents or from 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.360 schools when um counselors are at 00:09:42.560 --> 00:09:45.560 schools or when counselors are here with 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.600 the youth council or at any other public 00:09:49.839 --> 00:09:52.839 event. So I think that perhaps 00:09:53.920 --> 00:09:56.136 there it would be beneficial to just 00:09:56.160 --> 00:09:59.160 have an acknowledgment that that is a 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:00.935 presumption or an assumption that has 00:10:00.959 --> 00:10:03.255 been made and I'll speak for 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.495 myself I can speak for councelor Brumby 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.815 as well, that that assumption is 00:10:07.839 --> 00:10:10.776 incorrect that there hasn't been 00:10:10.800 --> 00:10:13.800 explicit permission provided or sought. 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:17.320 I'm sure councelor Simpson would 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:20.519 feel similarly in that relation. 00:10:20.800 --> 00:10:23.800 I do want to just clarify if this is a 00:10:26.079 --> 00:10:27.736 policy 00:10:27.760 --> 00:10:30.616 or I mean it's not clear. It just 00:10:30.640 --> 00:10:33.495 seems like it is an instruction that 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.656 council and counselors refrain from 00:10:35.680 --> 00:10:38.680 doing this activity, but there's nothing 00:10:38.800 --> 00:10:41.336 about the implementation of it. So, how 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:43.656 is this implemented? How is this kept 00:10:43.680 --> 00:10:46.680 track of? For example, if I post a photo 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:49.016 at a Christmas parade and there is a 00:10:49.040 --> 00:10:52.040 young child in it, who do I report to 00:10:52.079 --> 00:10:54.296 that I have gained explicit written 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.456 permission from their child from their 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:59.480 parent? How is that implemented? And I 00:10:59.680 --> 00:11:02.680 think that is part of 00:11:04.079 --> 00:11:07.079 the challenge with these sorts of 00:11:09.040 --> 00:11:10.616 instructions because we're not being 00:11:10.640 --> 00:11:13.336 asked to consider a policy. We're not 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.360 being asked to pass a policy or for 00:11:16.959 --> 00:11:19.016 council officers to go away and write a 00:11:19.040 --> 00:11:22.040 policy to bring back to us. we're just 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:25.320 being given I guess an instruction 00:11:25.680 --> 00:11:28.680 without any ways or means of 00:11:28.880 --> 00:11:31.336 implementing that. So I'd like to hear a 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.495 little bit more about how that will 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.519 occur if if there has been thought 00:11:37.839 --> 00:11:40.839 given to that. I do note however that 00:11:41.680 --> 00:11:44.680 council's current policies I think do 00:11:44.880 --> 00:11:47.880 actually cover this as do you know the 00:11:48.959 --> 00:11:51.959 specificities of law where there is 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:56.856 an expectation that if you are in a 00:11:56.880 --> 00:11:59.880 public place that there is you know 00:12:00.160 --> 00:12:02.935 perhaps an expectation that you may be 00:12:02.959 --> 00:12:05.815 filmed or photographed and not 00:12:05.839 --> 00:12:08.839 necessarily that you will be used as 00:12:08.880 --> 00:12:11.736 part of a promotion but that there 00:12:11.760 --> 00:12:14.375 is just you know that expectation I 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:15.896 think publicly. 00:12:15.920 --> 00:12:17.495 Thank you councelor Keygan. Councelor 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.296 Lynch 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.536 00:12:22.560 --> 00:12:24.456 I'd like to congratulate councilor Dorsey 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:27.255 on catching up with with where we sit 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.279 now. I was reading this going, 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:33.896 "This is standard policy and it has been 00:12:33.920 --> 00:12:36.696 for the last 20 years and the surf 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:38.615 club's got things in place. We have 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:41.016 things in place." If you'd have typed 00:12:41.040 --> 00:12:43.016 include current Burnie City Council 00:12:43.040 --> 00:12:45.896 policies into your AI chatbot then it 00:12:45.920 --> 00:12:47.495 would have shown you that this stuff is 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:49.096 already taken care of. I'm not sure 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.120 where you're going with it I 00:12:53.040 --> 00:12:55.096 I would urge you to have a good read of 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:56.696 the policies that are currently in place 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.656 for the council. But as I said, we this 00:12:59.680 --> 00:13:02.680 is standard procedure now of any we 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:05.176 did it at the start of this meeting. At 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:06.375 the start of this meeting, it was 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:08.375 announced that by default if you being 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:10.856 in the room, you will appear on on the 00:13:10.880 --> 00:13:13.880 screen. We do it with events that by you 00:13:13.920 --> 00:13:15.736 attending this event you are agreeing 00:13:15.760 --> 00:13:18.615 to. I would imagine that the the 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:20.296 Christmas parade would come under that 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:22.375 sort of thing. So I get where you're 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:24.696 going with it, but some of us have 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:26.136 understood this for quite a while, 00:13:26.160 --> 00:13:28.136 councelor Dorsey. So I'll be 00:13:28.160 --> 00:13:29.815 supporting the motion because it just 00:13:29.839 --> 00:13:31.976 reaffirms exactly where we sit right 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:33.096 now. 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:34.536 Thank you, Councilor Lynch. Councelor 00:13:34.560 --> 00:13:35.176 Pease. 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:36.536 Yeah, look, my comments were very 00:13:36.560 --> 00:13:38.216 similar to Councilor Lynch's as far as I'm 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:39.656 aware. This has been standard practice 00:13:39.680 --> 00:13:41.416 for a long, long time. So just through 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:43.255 you, acting mayor, perhaps a question to 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.279 the GM. Do we have does council have 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.176 current child safe policies and 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.336 processes in place? are we compliant 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:54.360 with all that's required 00:13:54.800 --> 00:13:56.935 through through you acting may look 00:13:56.959 --> 00:13:59.896 certainly we have a requirement to 00:13:59.920 --> 00:14:01.736 00:14:01.760 --> 00:14:03.736 act accordingly in relation to all 00:14:03.760 --> 00:14:05.896 legislation. We we do have as indicated 00:14:05.920 --> 00:14:07.416 in the comments a child safety and 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:09.416 well-being policy which council 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:12.055 adopted a number of years ago. Um our 00:14:12.079 --> 00:14:14.776 social media policy would also cover 00:14:14.800 --> 00:14:17.096 the points that councelor Dorsey is 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:18.935 is raising tonight in broad terms. It 00:14:18.959 --> 00:14:20.856 might not specifically use the the words 00:14:20.880 --> 00:14:23.815 that are here. And as alluded to as 00:14:23.839 --> 00:14:25.495 part of our compliance with legislation, 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:28.216 we would need to um um have protocols 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.615 around events and so forth. 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.096 So broadly speaking, yes, there are 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.096 some mechanisms in place. 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.536 Yeah. And and my reason for the question 00:14:36.560 --> 00:14:38.136 was because I felt sure that was the 00:14:38.160 --> 00:14:40.375 case. So pleasingly it seems we are 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.016 doing exactly what this motion asks for. 00:14:43.040 --> 00:14:45.096 Thank you councelor Pease. Councelor 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:46.055 Keygan did you 00:14:46.079 --> 00:14:47.976 I just wanted to make a clarifying 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.000 comment as well that with the passing 00:14:51.199 --> 00:14:54.055 excuse me um of the commission of 00:14:54.079 --> 00:14:56.536 inquiry recommendations and then the 00:14:56.560 --> 00:14:59.560 subsequent child safeguarding act that 00:14:59.839 --> 00:15:02.776 was passed I believe it was 2 years ago 00:15:02.800 --> 00:15:04.856 2023 00:15:04.880 --> 00:15:07.815 so 3 years ago council is also 00:15:07.839 --> 00:15:10.839 required to abide by all of the 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.416 legislation that is set out clearly in 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:16.055 that act and that includes the 10 00:15:16.079 --> 00:15:17.815 principles as well as the universal 00:15:17.839 --> 00:15:20.456 principle on child safeguarding. 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:23.016 Thank you Any other comments before I 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:25.416 hand it back to councelor Dorsey? 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:26.536 Councelor Dorsey, would you like to 00:15:26.560 --> 00:15:27.576 close? 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:29.576 thank you for that. I did look in 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:31.175 our policies and I didn't think it was 00:15:31.199 --> 00:15:33.976 prescriptive. So that was that that was 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:35.815 my belief at the time and it still is. 00:15:35.839 --> 00:15:37.336 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:38.856 and I think councelor Keygan brought up 00:15:38.880 --> 00:15:39.815 a good point. You know, I'm going to 00:15:39.839 --> 00:15:41.815 take if you take pictures of kids in a 00:15:41.839 --> 00:15:44.839 Christmas parade. 00:15:45.040 --> 00:15:46.615 By default, they're there and there, you 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:47.896 know, and there are rules about that 00:15:47.920 --> 00:15:49.656 being in public places and I'm aware of 00:15:49.680 --> 00:15:51.336 that, but you don't know their 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:53.175 circumstance. You know, I think it's 00:15:53.199 --> 00:15:55.255 best to air on the side of caution in 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:57.096 all instances. You don't know their 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:58.375 circumstance. You don't know that 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.136 they're not running from someone. You 00:16:00.160 --> 00:16:02.055 don't know if they're in hiding, but it 00:16:02.079 --> 00:16:03.336 doesn't mean that they want to refrain 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.336 from being in the community. It doesn't 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.360 mean that um they stop living. It's you 00:16:08.959 --> 00:16:11.096 know they are like I said I know of two 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.120 instances of it. So um if we do have a 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:16.696 policy do we have documentation? Do we 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:18.375 ever get signed forms like they do in 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.296 schools? And schools have very strict 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:22.296 policies on it. So I'm aware that if 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:24.136 they're in a school that the pictures 00:16:24.160 --> 00:16:25.495 that they're used with them in the 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.456 school they'd have to all agreed. They 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:29.735 would have their parents would have had 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:32.456 signed a document. So, 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:35.096 um, I said this is this is pretty much 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.815 this is common standard practice across 00:16:37.839 --> 00:16:39.175 should be in everything that we do. And 00:16:39.199 --> 00:16:41.016 I I like I said, I just noticed it at 00:16:41.040 --> 00:16:42.615 the Christmas the Easter stuff. I 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:43.976 thought, how come all these kids 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.096 pictures in here? Did they give 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:47.336 permission or is it is it implied 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:49.096 because you're at an event? Well, it 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:50.615 shouldn't be applied implied because 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:52.776 you're in event because otherwise you 00:16:52.800 --> 00:16:54.216 can't go to anything, especially if 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:55.896 you're in hiding or there's a risk or 00:16:55.920 --> 00:16:57.416 there's a risk of someone using your 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.440 image maliciously. So maybe and 00:17:01.199 --> 00:17:03.096 councelor Katon's right. I mean it's not 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.175 prescriptive in that we write a policy 00:17:05.199 --> 00:17:06.935 and we get these forms filled. But I'd 00:17:06.959 --> 00:17:08.775 just like to see counselors agree to 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:11.096 refrain from using children's images 00:17:11.120 --> 00:17:13.655 that they are that they do not know that 00:17:13.679 --> 00:17:15.895 they have permission to use. 00:17:15.919 --> 00:17:17.415 Thank you councelor Dorsey. We'll put 00:17:17.439 --> 00:17:19.415 that to the vote. All those in favor 00:17:19.439 --> 00:17:21.736 please raise your right hand. 00:17:21.760 --> 00:17:24.760 That's unanimous. Thank you. 00:17:25.679 --> 00:17:27.815 Go to page 17. There's a motion on 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:29.655 notice there for the visitor information 00:17:29.679 --> 00:17:32.679 center councilor Justin Grave has 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:33.976 given notice that he would move the 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:35.096 following motion at this meeting. 00:17:35.120 --> 00:17:36.535 Councelor Grave, you move that. Second, 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:38.456 Council Lynch. Thank you, Council Lynch. 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:39.816 Um councelor Grave, would you like to 00:17:39.840 --> 00:17:41.816 talk to the motion? 00:17:41.840 --> 00:17:43.655 Yeah, fairly straightforward one. 00:17:43.679 --> 00:17:45.736 Unfortunately, since the end of the 00:17:45.760 --> 00:17:48.616 makers workshop, um the city's been 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:50.296 missing a visitor information center. 00:17:50.320 --> 00:17:52.775 So, just thought it would be timely now 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.799 to um for staff to to do a report. Um 00:17:57.520 --> 00:17:59.336 the visitor information center was 00:17:59.360 --> 00:18:02.360 previously in the Federation Street 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:05.720 building. Um a lot of what was there 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.456 before it moved out, the brochure racks, 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:11.480 the it pretty much remains how it was 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.056 when it wasn't visitor information 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:15.976 center. So hopefully it would be 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:19.000 feasible to u well not much to convert 00:18:19.679 --> 00:18:21.976 back. It's It's all still there. So 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:23.816 interesting thing to look at. It's 00:18:23.840 --> 00:18:26.696 right beside the Civic Plaza what's just 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:29.576 been given a birthday. And that's 00:18:29.600 --> 00:18:31.576 looking really really good there. And 00:18:31.600 --> 00:18:34.056 also you've got the new coffee shop this 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:35.976 on the other side of the Civic Plaza. 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.936 And with the changes to the Civic 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:41.576 or the Burnie Arts parking there's 00:18:41.600 --> 00:18:44.216 large and long bay parking around that 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.096 area. So, I think it's a great spot 00:18:47.120 --> 00:18:50.120 for a visitor information center 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:53.799 most visitor information centers a 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.096 lot of people say about RVs and you 00:18:57.120 --> 00:18:58.856 know what if someone's traveling in a 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:01.880 motor home and it's got six trailers 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:03.976 information centers generally in 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.856 Tasmania like the one in Devonport is 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:09.576 in amongst the Paranapple center you 00:19:09.600 --> 00:19:11.015 won't get your caravan with eight 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:14.039 trailers within bulls roar of it or 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:16.376 any other visitor information center 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:19.400 that I know of. So they did work in 00:19:19.600 --> 00:19:21.496 this building previously for 10 to 12 00:19:21.520 --> 00:19:24.296 years. So yeah, I'm just interested to 00:19:24.320 --> 00:19:26.376 see what the feasibility 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:28.696 access functionality and the 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:30.535 questions in inside the report come 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.176 back. So yeah, I'll just ask my learned 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:35.576 friends around the table to support it. 00:19:35.600 --> 00:19:37.256 Thank you councelor G. Council Lynch in 00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:38.056 seconding. 00:19:38.080 --> 00:19:40.056 yes, I'll just reserve my comments 00:19:40.080 --> 00:19:40.936 till the end. Thanks. 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:42.616 Thank you, Council Lynch. councelor 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.640 Pete. Oh yeah, look, great idea. And my 00:19:45.840 --> 00:19:48.296 only sort of concern when I read it was 00:19:48.320 --> 00:19:50.056 that providing the report back to 00:19:50.080 --> 00:19:51.256 council within 3 months. Thought it 00:19:51.280 --> 00:19:52.696 might have been a tight time frame, but 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:54.696 then I read the GM's comments that much 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:55.976 of this work on the motion is already 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:57.895 underway. So it seems like that won't be 00:19:57.919 --> 00:20:00.376 an issue. So I think it's um there's an 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.456 endorsement in some respects from the GM 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:04.216 already or from council management that 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:05.895 this is something that we need to look 00:20:05.919 --> 00:20:08.696 at. So yes, thank you councelor Grave. 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:10.856 Thank you councelor P. Councelor Dorsey. 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:13.256 yeah, when I first read this um I 00:20:13.280 --> 00:20:14.376 thought you were wanted to have the 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:15.976 container moved there and then I thought 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:17.176 where would the volunteers put their 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.736 stuff? It wouldn't it wouldn't work. Um 00:20:19.760 --> 00:20:22.535 we've had numerous discussions 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:24.056 regarding the closure of the other one 00:20:24.080 --> 00:20:25.576 and really it's probably been a sore 00:20:25.600 --> 00:20:26.936 point for people for a long time that 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.336 the visitor information center closed. 00:20:29.360 --> 00:20:31.416 Um and that was based on that they 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:33.895 people use the web a lot more. Um when I 00:20:33.919 --> 00:20:36.456 want to go somewhere I I type it into my 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:38.216 car or I type it into my phone and I 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.856 just found my own way. Um, in saying 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:42.775 that, visitor centers has benefits. It's 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:45.576 human contact and a lot of times 00:20:45.600 --> 00:20:47.816 it might be the only time anyone talks 00:20:47.840 --> 00:20:50.775 to from talks to someone from Burnie and 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:52.696 that's their impression of Burnie and it 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:54.216 stuck with them and then they say, "Oh, 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:55.655 the people in Burnie are great people." 00:20:55.679 --> 00:20:56.856 All they ever talked to was someone at 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:58.936 the visitor information center that said 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:01.960 positive things about it. Um, 00:21:02.320 --> 00:21:03.816 and I do remember, you know, where 00:21:03.840 --> 00:21:06.216 you're talking about there was a that 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:07.736 the center was there before makers and 00:21:07.760 --> 00:21:09.336 we even had a stage coach riding out of 00:21:09.360 --> 00:21:10.456 there at one point in time and a guy 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:12.856 with a carriage. I don't think it went 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:14.376 very well, but it was it was it was 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:15.816 really interesting. Um, it's a good 00:21:15.840 --> 00:21:18.840 location. Um, 00:21:19.280 --> 00:21:21.015 and it's also good for the people that 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:22.296 come in on the bus because it's in the 00:21:22.320 --> 00:21:23.976 same area. So, no, I think this is very 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:25.655 positive and I look forward to it going 00:21:25.679 --> 00:21:26.936 forward. Thank you. 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:28.936 Thank you, Council Doors. Councelor 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.895 Aitken. 00:21:31.919 --> 00:21:34.919 Yeah, thank you. Um, 00:21:36.320 --> 00:21:38.216 I 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:41.015 may have missed a MIMO. I thought that 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.039 the Burnie Art Center was going to be 00:21:44.159 --> 00:21:45.655 incorporating, 00:21:45.679 --> 00:21:48.679 Long Bay parking, camper parking, and 00:21:49.360 --> 00:21:52.360 people would um source their information 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:55.496 from actually inside the new arts 00:21:55.520 --> 00:21:58.520 center. Um, so moving forward that would 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:02.200 be the center point of the city and 00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:06.120 people would come in and get a brochure, 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.176 have a coffee, have a look through the 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.200 art center which was 00:22:13.600 --> 00:22:15.496 was possibly going to be a ticketed 00:22:15.520 --> 00:22:16.936 event. They was looking at a couple of 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.096 different options on how things could be 00:22:19.120 --> 00:22:22.120 done. but the talk was definitely 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:24.456 about the tourist information center 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:27.256 being encapsulated in the art center 00:22:27.280 --> 00:22:30.280 itself and um that would actually 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.256 naturally drive people in the front door 00:22:33.280 --> 00:22:36.280 of of that. Um if that's wrong or if 00:22:38.159 --> 00:22:41.096 I've misunderstood that I'm happy for 00:22:41.120 --> 00:22:43.336 someone to correct me but 00:22:43.360 --> 00:22:44.775 yeah thank you council 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:47.176 pro might be because the G before the 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:48.216 GM's time. 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:49.816 Yeah thank you council. I'll pass that 00:22:49.840 --> 00:22:50.376 to the GM. 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:52.296 No, I can certainly comment on that. Um, 00:22:52.320 --> 00:22:54.135 you are correct, Council OAitken. The 00:22:54.159 --> 00:22:56.296 there is an annual plan action that this 00:22:56.320 --> 00:22:59.096 council adopted in the current year's as 00:22:59.120 --> 00:23:00.856 part of the current year's um budget and 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.096 annual plan document um that indicates 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:05.416 that we will explore um visitor 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:07.096 information services within the Burnie 00:23:07.120 --> 00:23:10.120 Arts building. you may recall that um 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.296 some months ago we applied for some 00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:16.456 funding to support that through the 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:17.976 like spirit readiness or spirit 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.775 preparedness grant process um which was 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:23.799 unsuccessful. so when the report 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:26.056 talks to the fact that you know much of 00:23:26.080 --> 00:23:27.816 that work has been done I guess that 00:23:27.840 --> 00:23:30.296 what it says is you we've been exploring 00:23:30.320 --> 00:23:32.216 um visitor services in and around this 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:35.176 area primarily in the Burnie Arts area 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:37.256 for a little while and we'll extend 00:23:37.280 --> 00:23:40.280 that exploration now um as proposed 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:43.720 in the motion. 00:23:43.919 --> 00:23:46.919 So that would be if that this motion was 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.256 to get up, we would change the focus 00:23:49.280 --> 00:23:52.216 from being Burnie Arts to being the 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:54.856 building across the other side of the 00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:55.895 fountain. 00:23:55.919 --> 00:23:57.816 Very I would suggest because you 00:23:57.840 --> 00:23:59.816 certainly wouldn't operate too um in 00:23:59.840 --> 00:24:01.576 such close proximity. 00:24:01.600 --> 00:24:02.056 Yeah. 00:24:02.080 --> 00:24:04.296 Thank you, councelor Akin. Councelor 00:24:04.320 --> 00:24:05.015 Boyd. 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:06.775 Yes. It's been a long gun there. We've 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:09.799 missed the one at the at at the point 00:24:10.159 --> 00:24:12.376 there and the makers workshop, but we 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:15.176 were told at the time from a a tourism 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:17.976 man that they're no longer required 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:20.856 and that's not right because a lot of 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:22.936 old people especially like they do it 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.096 over chat. Certainly the new people, the 00:24:25.120 --> 00:24:26.535 new tourists, they do it on their phone 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:28.456 and that sort of stuff. They find a way 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:30.135 around. There's still a lot of oldies, 00:24:30.159 --> 00:24:33.096 the caravan towers. They like to unload 00:24:33.120 --> 00:24:35.895 their van and have a a chat and find out 00:24:35.919 --> 00:24:37.895 something off. But look what in that 00:24:37.919 --> 00:24:39.416 area there. It's a great spot especially 00:24:39.440 --> 00:24:41.816 to showcase their new arts and function 00:24:41.840 --> 00:24:44.696 center and up at the um the roto garden. 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:46.856 It's a lovely spot. I was there today 00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:48.936 and it's nice up there too for people to 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:50.135 pop in. They probably got a bit of a 00:24:50.159 --> 00:24:53.159 challen going in if they two caravans 00:24:53.840 --> 00:24:55.176 meet. That can be a bit tricky down the 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.336 hill, but they'll sort that out. But 00:24:57.360 --> 00:24:58.856 it's a wonderful spot up there for one 00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:00.616 also for a small one and then they'll 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:02.456 get a bit of bit of use out of that and 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:04.456 a bit of they'll stay and have a coffee 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:06.535 have a sandwich and bit of income I 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.216 should imagine. 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:10.216 No, so this will be good too to work 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.775 with it. It's it'll be good around there 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:14.216 especially for our new arts and function 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:16.936 center and the museum. It's a great a 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:19.816 great facility around there now. Tops 00:25:19.840 --> 00:25:21.816 probably the best in Tasmania. 00:25:21.840 --> 00:25:23.895 Well said councelor Boyd. Thank you very 00:25:23.919 --> 00:25:25.895 much. Any other comments on the table 00:25:25.919 --> 00:25:27.255 before I throw it back to councelor 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.216 Grave? 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:31.576 Councelor Grave. Oh, sorry. Council, 00:25:31.600 --> 00:25:33.816 I just quickly jump in and say thanks to 00:25:33.840 --> 00:25:35.576 um councelor Grae to formally bring this 00:25:35.600 --> 00:25:37.496 forward. I we're aware that work was 00:25:37.520 --> 00:25:40.520 happening, but this sort of formalizes 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.936 it a bit. And I too have heard a lot of 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.255 commentary around um access of long 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:46.376 vehicles and whatever. And I'll just 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.296 point out the makers workshop um there's 00:25:48.320 --> 00:25:50.296 no way to park a caravan there. There 00:25:50.320 --> 00:25:51.816 was no way to park an RV there either. 00:25:51.840 --> 00:25:53.255 So I don't know where they were parking 00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:56.279 to access that. So I think that we um if 00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:59.176 if we do go ahead in this area then we 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:01.176 can quarantine some space. It puts the 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:02.696 visitors white smackbang in the middle 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.720 of town as opposed to 500 600 m out. Um 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:09.176 so I'm very much for it and I um just 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:10.696 congratulate councelor Gray for bringing 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:11.816 it to the head. Thanks. 00:26:11.840 --> 00:26:13.496 Thank you councelor Lynch. Councelor 00:26:13.520 --> 00:26:15.336 Grave would you like to close? 00:26:15.360 --> 00:26:16.936 Oh good. Excellent. All right we'll put 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:18.535 it to the vote. All those in favor 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:21.096 please raise your right hand. 00:26:21.120 --> 00:26:22.856 That's unanimous. Thank you very much. 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.880 Well done, Councelor Grave. 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.015 We'll go to page 20. There's a motion on 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:30.936 notice there for early bird parking in 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.015 the multi-story car park. Councelor 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.039 Dorsey, we're moving that. Yes. And 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:37.655 seconded by councelor Peace. Thank you, 00:26:37.679 --> 00:26:39.255 Councelor Peace. Councelor Dorsey, would 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:40.775 you like to comment? 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:42.135 Yeah, this was a hard one actually 00:26:42.159 --> 00:26:43.576 because we have been waiting for a 00:26:43.600 --> 00:26:46.296 parking review for 3 years. I think it 00:26:46.320 --> 00:26:48.135 is. And I wasn't going to raise it until 00:26:48.159 --> 00:26:49.736 we had completed the parking review. And 00:26:49.760 --> 00:26:51.336 I understand it's close and we've been 00:26:51.360 --> 00:26:53.336 waiting for it for a period of time. I 00:26:53.360 --> 00:26:54.856 did speak to the general manager before 00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.696 I raised this and he said there's no 00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:58.135 point in not being a bit aggressive in 00:26:58.159 --> 00:27:01.159 what we're doing. Um, was that was that 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:03.895 right? 00:27:03.919 --> 00:27:05.336 Question. 00:27:05.360 --> 00:27:08.360 I think it was more firm than that. 00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:10.775 And we've agreed to wait. And waiting is 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:12.296 something we've we've gotten very good 00:27:12.320 --> 00:27:15.015 at. Um, and I actually I was thinking 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:16.856 about it. Would a business person wait 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:18.456 if they knew they were losing money on 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:19.736 something that they could be earning 00:27:19.760 --> 00:27:22.056 from money from? And later in the later 00:27:22.080 --> 00:27:24.936 in the um in the agenda, we have our 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.856 parking stats. So far this year, we're 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.880 down 7,000 cars and $33,000. 00:27:31.600 --> 00:27:33.176 I notice the amount of cars you and 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.336 really I noticed this months ago and and 00:27:35.360 --> 00:27:36.936 councelor Boyd's talked about it and I 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.576 know councelor Peas has um the amount of 00:27:39.600 --> 00:27:42.216 cars using the K car Kmart complex on 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:45.240 the top and we agreed to wait and we and 00:27:45.360 --> 00:27:47.015 so 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.856 had we done this 6 months ago assuming 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.015 one-third of Kmart patronage or 60 00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:53.255 commuters we now have approximately 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.015 $55,000 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.895 more based on a 5day week. We have 00:27:57.919 --> 00:28:00.919 capacity for more than 200. Um, this 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:02.696 could have been used to replace the 00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.375 silver birch trees, pave the side of the 00:28:04.399 --> 00:28:06.375 road, improve our parks. But we've 00:28:06.399 --> 00:28:08.375 waited in the instance of waiting is 00:28:08.399 --> 00:28:10.216 subst has been substantial both to the 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:11.576 coffers of the council but to the people 00:28:11.600 --> 00:28:13.895 of Burnie also. Now the other thing that 00:28:13.919 --> 00:28:15.736 we've done, we've changed people's 00:28:15.760 --> 00:28:17.336 behavior. And if you're a business 00:28:17.360 --> 00:28:18.696 person, that's the worst thing you can 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:20.375 do because 00:28:20.399 --> 00:28:23.015 by not offering something, they go 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:24.936 somewhere else and we've changed their 00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.336 behavior. So now they go there. Instead 00:28:27.360 --> 00:28:30.360 of coming to us, they go there. Um, 00:28:31.120 --> 00:28:34.120 we've allowed through and inactivity to 00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:36.296 lose patronage, credibility, and money, 00:28:36.320 --> 00:28:38.696 but we're still waiting. The cost of 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.720 waiting is is probably quantifiable. Um, 00:28:41.840 --> 00:28:43.576 and I understand the desire to consult. 00:28:43.600 --> 00:28:45.655 And some of us like a good weight. In 00:28:45.679 --> 00:28:47.176 fact, at the rate we're going, perhaps 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.176 we should explore 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.496 second income state. You know, maybe we 00:28:51.520 --> 00:28:53.255 should look at something else. And I 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:54.936 said, I'm I'm I'm tired of waiting. This 00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:56.856 is a simple thing. I had some catty 00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.135 things I was going to say, but I'm not 00:28:58.159 --> 00:29:01.159 going to. Um, I think we can we can do 00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:02.696 this now. We don't have to wait for the 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.096 budget. We have to we have to implement 00:29:05.120 --> 00:29:06.856 it and we have to start because it's 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:08.616 going to take a period of time to talk 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.015 to change people's behavior and the 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.039 longer we wait, the more money we lose. 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:16.535 Thank you, Council Dorsey. Um, Councelor 00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.616 Pace, did you have a comment being the 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:19.255 second? 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.279 Yeah. Um the as councelor Dorsey said, 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:24.856 we've been waiting a long time for a 00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:27.655 parking review and it at dates prior to 00:29:27.679 --> 00:29:30.679 this management team. Um and so it has 00:29:31.520 --> 00:29:33.255 become very frustrating that we're not 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.816 reacting to the market quickly enough. 00:29:35.840 --> 00:29:37.576 And as councelor Dorsey said, there are 00:29:37.600 --> 00:29:39.176 other options in town for early bird 00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:42.200 parking. I raised this when we lost the 00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:45.880 free parking at West Park when the 00:29:46.080 --> 00:29:47.976 new building was built out there because 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.216 there are a number of or a large number 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.936 of people who work in town who were 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:54.616 parking out there for free and walking 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.176 in happy to walk. Not only did we take 00:29:57.200 --> 00:29:59.015 that away, we didn't offer a cheaper 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.255 alternative or any alternative in town 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:04.279 except full fair parking. And so Kmart 00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:07.015 complex actually realized there was a 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.535 gap in the market and took advantage of 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:10.936 it and 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.960 that is now a very full facility and I 00:30:14.080 --> 00:30:16.135 think there's an opportunity for us to 00:30:16.159 --> 00:30:17.655 on the back of that now it should have 00:30:17.679 --> 00:30:19.096 been in advance of it but on the back of 00:30:19.120 --> 00:30:20.936 that introduce something and actually 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:23.576 take advantage of those not taking it's 00:30:23.600 --> 00:30:24.775 not the right word taking advantage of 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.936 those people but provide a service to 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:29.015 those people that we're currently not so 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.375 I think really important that we do get 00:30:30.399 --> 00:30:33.015 this underway there are it's not as easy 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:34.375 as it sounds There are issues with the 00:30:34.399 --> 00:30:35.736 multi- story car park as someone who 00:30:35.760 --> 00:30:37.336 parks in there all the time in just 00:30:37.360 --> 00:30:38.696 determining things, but I'm sure 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:40.936 management can work through that. Um, 00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:42.696 but yeah, all for it. 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.856 Thank you, councelor Pe. And council 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:45.655 Lynch, 00:30:45.679 --> 00:30:48.135 can I just confirm? So, we still we 00:30:48.159 --> 00:30:51.159 still offer monthly parking fees in 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:53.496 the multi car park. So, I can pay a 00:30:53.520 --> 00:30:55.096 monthly fee to park there at a greatly 00:30:55.120 --> 00:30:58.120 reduced rate. That's correct. 00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.135 Yeah, that that is correct. We we offer 00:31:00.159 --> 00:31:01.336 reserve spaces. Correct. 00:31:01.360 --> 00:31:02.856 Cheers. So, I'm I'm going to support the 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:03.976 motion. I don't have a problem with it. 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.296 I've got a little bit of an issue with, 00:31:06.320 --> 00:31:08.616 you know, competitive neutrality is a 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:10.936 term that nobody likes here, but we we 00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:13.960 have to follow it. Um, we some of the 00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:15.736 way that we're talking about this is 00:31:15.760 --> 00:31:17.976 that we're we're in business and that 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.056 we're competing with another car park 00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:23.015 owner um who according to the preamble 00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.039 of emotion um has done really well, 1.8 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.720 million or whatever it is. Um it so if 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:31.976 the way I was reading your motion 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.816 council of Dorsey was that if we had in 00:31:33.840 --> 00:31:36.840 if we had instigated this previously six 00:31:37.120 --> 00:31:39.255 years ago whatever that competitor would 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.495 have lost that money cuz we would have 00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.816 got the money. So we need to be really 00:31:43.840 --> 00:31:45.976 mindful of competitive neutrality here. 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:47.816 So we need to be equal and that's about 00:31:47.840 --> 00:31:50.535 it. The opportunity exists right now for 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.216 people to get discount tickets to park 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:54.375 in the multi-story car park. Um, and as 00:31:54.399 --> 00:31:57.015 for um and as for educating the public 00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:58.856 about where they might park, well, I'll 00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.096 just let those comments hang. So, I will 00:32:01.120 --> 00:32:02.936 be supporting the M motion, though. 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.336 Thank you, Council Leegan. 00:32:05.360 --> 00:32:08.360 Yeah, thank you. Um, I also wanted to 00:32:09.120 --> 00:32:11.416 just get some direction from the general 00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.216 manager in relation to the 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:17.240 competitiveness of council moving into 00:32:18.159 --> 00:32:20.856 this market. Notwithstanding that there 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.535 were suggestions that this should have 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.559 been done some time ago, there is now an 00:32:26.320 --> 00:32:27.895 operator 00:32:27.919 --> 00:32:30.919 um in this market um which in order 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.200 to I suppose change commuters behavior 00:32:37.679 --> 00:32:40.056 because we all know that the multi-story 00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:43.080 parking lot is not wildly popular with 00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.440 people because people don't want to walk 00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:49.255 from where the multi-story parking lot 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:52.279 is located to town. Um, this is 00:32:53.360 --> 00:32:56.296 something that I hear very regularly 00:32:56.320 --> 00:32:58.936 about why people aren't utilizing the 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.960 multi-story parking lot. And so it would 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:03.895 seem to me that in order to change 00:33:03.919 --> 00:33:06.919 people's behavior from parking quite 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.736 centrally on a main CBD block in a 00:33:09.760 --> 00:33:12.760 multi-story parking lot at Kmart to our 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:14.696 multi-story parking lot that we would 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:16.616 need to underwrite 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.640 um what Kmart is offering in terms of 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.200 early bird parking. So how does council 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.279 I guess move around that challenge 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.736 through you acting there if I've 00:33:35.760 --> 00:33:38.616 understood the question correctly as as 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:40.936 I understand it principles of 00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.255 competitive neutrality mean that we just 00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.336 can't as a council or as a local 00:33:45.360 --> 00:33:47.096 government entity have an unfair 00:33:47.120 --> 00:33:49.176 advantage over private operators in the 00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:51.976 market. So what that means is that we 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.616 can't lower prices for example on 00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.015 parking and then hide cost of running 00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:58.616 that service elsewhere within the 00:33:58.640 --> 00:33:59.495 business. Yeah. 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.056 So we must have and be able to prove 00:34:02.080 --> 00:34:04.535 full cost attribution towards the cost 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.936 of parking to then help um justify our 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:08.855 pricing structure. So there's not an 00:34:08.879 --> 00:34:10.936 issue from a perspective as I understand 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:12.936 it around us offering early bird 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.960 parking. Um but our pricing structure 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.615 needs to be u based on full cost 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.776 attribution. Great. Thank you for that 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:21.815 clarification. 00:34:21.839 --> 00:34:23.496 Thank you councelor Keygan over 00:34:23.520 --> 00:34:24.855 councelor boy. 00:34:24.879 --> 00:34:27.879 Yes to our parking that runs the parking 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:31.320 that's Mr. earn I should imagine how 00:34:31.839 --> 00:34:34.839 many private operators provide long-term 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:38.135 parking in Burnie and the spaces 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.296 approximately 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.855 through you may deputy mayor I can't 00:34:42.879 --> 00:34:44.375 give you the exact detail of the number 00:34:44.399 --> 00:34:46.615 of operators I can tell you however that 00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.639 council probably owns about 46% 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:51.655 of the car parking available within the 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.216 CBD at the moment so we don't own the 00:34:54.240 --> 00:34:57.016 majority there's about a 54 55% that's 00:34:57.040 --> 00:34:58.936 run by private operators 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:01.256 Right. Yeah. I just had that in my with 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:04.136 this has been on a radar before and I 00:35:04.160 --> 00:35:05.736 was concerned about competitive 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.760 neutrality too. So I mean and I mean 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:12.456 things changed behind the uni know 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:14.696 that's not as like it was before and 00:35:14.720 --> 00:35:16.055 there could be others on the road you 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.776 wouldn't know around the place. So but 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:20.216 if it was clear that competitive 00:35:20.240 --> 00:35:22.936 neutrality that's pretty important. I'd 00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.960 hate to see any anything that happens. 00:35:26.160 --> 00:35:29.095 So, um, anyway, the other got bear in 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.119 mind that the other, , long-term 00:35:32.160 --> 00:35:35.160 parking operators, they do pay rates. 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:39.896 Thank you, Councelor Boy. 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.920 Thank you. Um, councelor Grave. 00:35:43.200 --> 00:35:45.095 Yeah. First of all, we thank Councelor 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:48.055 Dorsey for bringing this motion. 00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:49.896 parking at the multi-story car park and 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.920 and parking in general has been um 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.055 somewhat of an annoyance to me since 00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.079 since I was elected. So um in the 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.936 multi-story car park like the amount 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.335 of empty spaces when you drive past that 00:36:05.359 --> 00:36:08.359 sign down Marine Terrace every day 00:36:09.200 --> 00:36:12.200 it's parking has a finite life. It's 00:36:12.560 --> 00:36:14.696 it's like a perishable good. If if we 00:36:14.720 --> 00:36:16.296 don't sell parking that day, that is 00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.776 money lost forever. You can't go back to 00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:20.616 yesterday and bring a car back to park 00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:23.016 there. So, it's it's important to 00:36:23.040 --> 00:36:26.040 Burnie. It's important asset. So, we 00:36:26.560 --> 00:36:29.560 keep the the rates low. businesses in 00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:32.376 Burnie and and councelor Peas would know 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:34.456 more more on this than me, but 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.456 businesses paid a special levy on their 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.480 rates to build that. you know, when when 00:36:39.680 --> 00:36:42.055 things were tough in Burnie, businesses 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.376 had a special levy to to pay for that 00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.856 multi-story car park. So, it should be 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.016 used for the benefit of of shopkeepers, 00:36:49.040 --> 00:36:51.416 the retailers. The thing should be jam 00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.335 full every day. If we've got to bring 00:36:53.359 --> 00:36:55.335 rates down, it was paid by the 00:36:55.359 --> 00:36:57.016 shopkeepers. So, that's that's an 00:36:57.040 --> 00:36:59.416 important point. So, it should be jam 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:01.335 full. If that means we need to make the 00:37:01.359 --> 00:37:03.016 spacing bigger in that car park to 00:37:03.040 --> 00:37:05.095 attract more punters, if we've got to 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:06.696 lower prices, if we're going to offer 00:37:06.720 --> 00:37:08.456 discounts, 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.216 I think our problem will be when we fill 00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:12.376 the thing and it's full every day. 00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:13.656 That's when we can look at something 00:37:13.680 --> 00:37:16.680 else. But we we need that car park full. 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.440 Not not 50% full, not 20% full. I reckon 00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:22.856 we can get it 80 90% every day of the 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.880 week. Um and and really get people in 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.736 there. And as I said, we can change 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.456 spaces, we can change prices. if we 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:32.776 don't sell that space that day, it's 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.800 gone. Um and when businesses were 00:37:36.240 --> 00:37:38.296 getting slug with that special levy in 00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:40.616 Burnie, things were tough. So they a lot 00:37:40.640 --> 00:37:43.176 of retailers are to thank for that um 00:37:43.200 --> 00:37:45.815 multi-story car park. Um the other thing 00:37:45.839 --> 00:37:48.839 with councelor Dorsey's motion, we need 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.656 to get workers on the top floor. If I'm 00:37:51.680 --> 00:37:54.536 paying the same money anywhere in 00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:57.256 that multi-story car park, I will park 00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.416 on the bottom floor. I will be that lazy 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.496 person. Park there all day. And that 00:38:01.520 --> 00:38:04.456 takes a car spot of someone who's wanted 00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:07.480 to duck in town. Um and and you know, go 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:09.656 shopping. If you're going to be there 00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:10.856 all day, you should be on the top 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.880 floors, do a bit of a walk. Um, so it 00:38:14.640 --> 00:38:16.696 holds it's better off for the retailers 00:38:16.720 --> 00:38:18.696 again if we can have all the the bottom 00:38:18.720 --> 00:38:21.720 floors, you know, at a different price. 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.055 , it's premium parking on the bottom 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.079 floors. Um, and obviously the the top 00:38:27.680 --> 00:38:30.216 floor doesn't have a roof. So, , it 00:38:30.240 --> 00:38:31.575 should be charged differently to the 00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:34.599 other floors anyway. Um, 00:38:34.640 --> 00:38:36.376 yeah, we need need shoppers close to 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.456 retail, but I think there's lots of 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.696 stuff we can look at in the multi-story 00:38:40.720 --> 00:38:42.616 car park. Do we have more parking for 00:38:42.640 --> 00:38:45.095 parents? Do we have as I said 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:46.696 different spaces for different people? 00:38:46.720 --> 00:38:49.720 It was good that we put um more 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:51.496 disability parking in there on different 00:38:51.520 --> 00:38:53.736 levels close to the lift. That that was 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:56.760 a great idea some time ago. 00:38:57.359 --> 00:38:59.496 U motorcycle parking there. It's all 00:38:59.520 --> 00:39:02.136 good. Um but yeah, we need to really 00:39:02.160 --> 00:39:04.696 look and once again, councelor Dorsey, 00:39:04.720 --> 00:39:06.776 thanks for bringing this, but we we 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.696 certainly need to jump on the the whole 00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:11.720 parking in the CBD. Um early bird 00:39:13.040 --> 00:39:15.575 parking in in Jones Street, one side of 00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.095 the street's early bird and the other's 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.119 not. You know, 00:39:20.240 --> 00:39:22.456 I I fathom to understand how we come up 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.335 with this stuff. You you you go across 00:39:25.359 --> 00:39:27.016 the street, it's cheaper one side than 00:39:27.040 --> 00:39:29.335 the other. we need to look at parking 00:39:29.359 --> 00:39:31.896 and get it fixed and these are little 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.055 things what will reactivate our city and 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.296 and make it vibrant will get people 00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.320 coming into the city to to enjoy Burnie. 00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:43.176 Thank you councelor Grave Councelor Hen. 00:39:43.200 --> 00:39:46.200 Um yeah, just a question. The Bassalt 00:39:47.200 --> 00:39:49.016 column car park straight across the road 00:39:49.040 --> 00:39:51.335 from the multi story, is that still got 00:39:51.359 --> 00:39:53.656 early bird parking 00:39:53.680 --> 00:39:56.680 and do we know roughly how many if 00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:58.696 that's utilized? 00:39:58.720 --> 00:40:00.536 To throw that one over to the GM, I 00:40:00.560 --> 00:40:01.736 think 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:04.216 through you, Deputy Mayor, it still 00:40:04.240 --> 00:40:05.976 has early bird parking, but for the 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.976 numbers, I'd have to take that on notice 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:09.976 at this point. roughly just there's a 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:11.016 few there or there's 00:40:11.040 --> 00:40:13.095 I honestly honestly couldn't give you an 00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:14.696 answer at all one way or the other. 00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:15.016 Okay. 00:40:15.040 --> 00:40:16.936 Yep. 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:19.575 Thank you. Um so we do offer we already 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:21.656 offer early bird parking. This is 00:40:21.680 --> 00:40:24.456 effectively an extension of early bird 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:26.296 parking and we do offer early bird 00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.320 parking in the same area in the same 00:40:29.839 --> 00:40:32.055 literally a on the other side of the 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:35.079 street of where we're talking. Um, 00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.736 , I'll be supporting this because 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:42.760 anything that encourages people into the 00:40:43.359 --> 00:40:46.359 CBD is a great thing. Um, 00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:50.055 if you had free all day parking every 00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:52.696 day, then I'm sure that you would have a 00:40:52.720 --> 00:40:55.720 very full car park and we would all love 00:40:56.560 --> 00:40:58.536 free parking. So, I'll just reiterate 00:40:58.560 --> 00:41:00.456 that to the council yet again and all 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.055 the councilors that Burnie actually 00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.079 wants free parking. Um, our preference 00:41:05.359 --> 00:41:08.359 is for free parking, but if we have to 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:10.376 cut a deal for an early bird, then we'll 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.216 we'll cut a deal and we'll take a deal 00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:14.776 at early bird parking. Thank you. 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:16.936 Thank you, Council A. Any others from 00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:18.616 the floor? We throw throw it back to 00:41:18.640 --> 00:41:21.016 you, Council Dorsey, to close. 00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:23.095 Sure. And for people who don't have the 00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.976 figures here, when I when I reviewed 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:27.335 this, I went up two days in a row and 00:41:27.359 --> 00:41:29.496 looked at it. The top five floors in the 00:41:29.520 --> 00:41:32.520 multi-story car park had 39 vehicles. 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.760 So, five floors had 30 39 vehicles and 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.880 240 empty spaces out of 653. Now, 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:41.496 councelor Grave talked about seeing the 00:41:41.520 --> 00:41:44.520 sign um and saying, you know, there's 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:48.216 483 spaces empty or whatever. I walked 00:41:48.240 --> 00:41:49.575 we went past the other day. The sign's 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:51.256 not working, so I couldn't tell you how 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.280 many people weren't in there. Um, 00:41:54.720 --> 00:41:57.720 on April 15th, the Kmart complex had 187 00:41:57.839 --> 00:42:00.055 people on the top floor. The multi-store 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.079 car park had 168 total. 00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:05.575 Now, my understanding of of competitive 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.536 neutrality is is we can't undercut them. 00:42:08.560 --> 00:42:10.376 If they're if they're selling parking 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.400 places at $7, we have to we can't say, 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:14.936 "Oh, we're going to do it six to steal 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:16.696 their business." That was my 00:42:16.720 --> 00:42:19.720 understanding of it. Um, and really 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:22.696 I have parking. There's a lot of people 00:42:22.720 --> 00:42:25.016 in town who have parking and I'm cheaper 00:42:25.040 --> 00:42:27.656 than the council and 00:42:27.680 --> 00:42:29.656 I'm happy to do that cuz I don't have 00:42:29.680 --> 00:42:31.736 the same cost structure as you guys do. 00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:34.295 Um, 00:42:34.319 --> 00:42:36.536 so this is 00:42:36.560 --> 00:42:38.616 mine's more. 00:42:38.640 --> 00:42:41.496 I mean, just to clarify, perhaps we 00:42:41.520 --> 00:42:42.856 should um 00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:44.376 just 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:46.136 declare that 00:42:46.160 --> 00:42:48.376 conflict in the quite it's quite 00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:49.095 apparent. 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.176 Well, no, I don't I don't I don't have I 00:42:51.200 --> 00:42:51.736 have 00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:53.496 You just said you have parking in town 00:42:53.520 --> 00:42:55.575 and you do it cheaper than council. 00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:56.055 I do. 00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:57.815 So, I think that that is 00:42:57.839 --> 00:42:59.815 a conflict of interest. That is an 00:42:59.839 --> 00:43:01.736 obvious conflict of interest. 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.335 I'm actually trying to get the fees 00:43:03.359 --> 00:43:05.016 down. 00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:06.055 I'm not trying to 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.536 regardless it is it still exists as a 00:43:08.560 --> 00:43:10.055 conflict of interest. 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:11.416 Well, I don't see that but yeah, thank 00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.440 you councel. Sorry, councelor Dorsey 00:43:15.040 --> 00:43:16.295 going councelor peas talks about 00:43:16.319 --> 00:43:18.216 councelor Dorsey. Sorry, just speaking. 00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:19.976 Thank you. Thank you councelor Keygan. 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:21.575 Um it's up to you whether you wish to 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.599 declare that declare that it's it's it's 00:43:25.200 --> 00:43:27.016 something in common. It's councelor Pet 00:43:27.040 --> 00:43:28.776 talks about shops in town. he has a shop 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.216 in town, 00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:33.095 you know, in the same, you know, 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:36.119 um, that works all the way along. So, 00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:37.335 there's a lot of people that have 00:43:37.359 --> 00:43:39.736 parking in town. So, I don't think it's 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:41.176 a conflict of interest cuz I'm actually 00:43:41.200 --> 00:43:42.936 not I don't have early bird parking and 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:45.960 I'm not supporting that for that. Um, 00:43:46.560 --> 00:43:48.776 and I don't, like I said, I'm sorry to 00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:51.176 have to signal out Kmart or whatever, 00:43:51.200 --> 00:43:54.200 but they they they 00:43:54.640 --> 00:43:57.176 offered a service that we're not and 00:43:57.200 --> 00:43:58.776 we're losing the business and I want the 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.136 council to make as much money as they 00:44:00.160 --> 00:44:02.055 can so that we can on our rate burden, 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.136 it's less for the people of Burnie and 00:44:04.160 --> 00:44:05.736 that there's more people in the the 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.456 multi-story car park. So, I'll just 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:09.496 leave it at that. 00:44:09.520 --> 00:44:11.095 Thank you, Council Dorsey. We'll put this 00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:12.936 motion to the table. Those in favor, 00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.095 please raise your right hand. 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:18.119 That is unanimous. Thank you very much. 00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:20.856 I go to page 23. Questions. Councelor 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.496 questions without notice. Councelor 00:44:23.520 --> 00:44:26.520 Keygan. Thank you. Um in March, in the 00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:30.776 March meeting, I queried who was 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:32.376 responsible for the maintenance of 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.400 overgrown trees along Mount Street and 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.736 it was noted that council had 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.456 responsibility for some or most of them. 00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:43.176 Could the GM please provide an update on 00:44:43.200 --> 00:44:45.496 any remediation works to the overhanging 00:44:45.520 --> 00:44:47.176 trees on Mount Street? 00:44:47.200 --> 00:44:48.536 Thank you, Councelor Keygan. I might 00:44:48.560 --> 00:44:50.456 throw that over to Peter Py if that's 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:51.416 okay, Peter. Thank you. 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.440 Certainly. through you um um deputy 00:44:54.640 --> 00:44:56.936 mayor. Um yeah, the pass bath was 00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.960 inspected by tree by team members. Tree 00:45:00.160 --> 00:45:02.616 and shrub trimming was done to allow 00:45:02.640 --> 00:45:04.376 better access where council has 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.295 responsibility and a letter dropped to 00:45:06.319 --> 00:45:08.936 residents where they have responsibility 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.575 for having vegetation was carried out. 00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:13.095 The weeds were sprayed and since then 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:14.136 brush cut. 00:45:14.160 --> 00:45:16.456 Great. Thank you so much. Thank you. Um, 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.016 at the same meeting I also queried who 00:45:19.040 --> 00:45:21.335 was responsible for the maintenance of 00:45:21.359 --> 00:45:23.815 the NBN and Telstra pits that have been 00:45:23.839 --> 00:45:26.456 accessed and then not remediated 00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:28.536 correctly, which has made the path 00:45:28.560 --> 00:45:31.016 incredibly uneven and dangerous in some 00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:34.040 places along Mount Street. Um, happy for 00:45:34.560 --> 00:45:37.560 the GM to defer to , Mr. porch on this 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:39.416 one as well, but could we please have an 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:41.575 update on any remediation works that 00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:43.976 have been done to those or any 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.656 correspondence to the companies who are 00:45:45.680 --> 00:45:48.680 responsible for their um maintenance to 00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.016 alert them of the safety hazards of 00:45:51.040 --> 00:45:51.656 their work? 00:45:51.680 --> 00:45:53.016 Thank you, councelor Keygan. I'll throw 00:45:53.040 --> 00:45:54.376 that back over to Peter. 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:56.536 certainly again through you, Deputy 00:45:56.560 --> 00:45:58.936 Mayor. so communication has been 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.815 instigated with NBN with whom councelor 00:46:01.839 --> 00:46:03.736 has a number of current issues being 00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.376 followed up. these relate to recent 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.216 reinstatement of paths and damage to 00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:10.856 council infrastructure. Um we're pleased 00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:12.856 to be able to say that NBN has shown an 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.696 interest in engaging in discussions of 00:46:14.720 --> 00:46:17.720 progressing with regard to um to 00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:21.079 their reinstatement works and pits. 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.000 our footpath network is 191 00:46:25.359 --> 00:46:28.055 kilometers long with pits in the 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.456 hundreds if not the thousands. Now works 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.616 to the footpath network requires the 00:46:32.640 --> 00:46:34.376 strategic approach for effective 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.696 management. We've had the complete 00:46:36.720 --> 00:46:39.095 footpath network inspected recently with 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:42.119 the results due by the end of June 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.400 that will identify the worst defect 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:49.335 the valuation of a specific property and 00:46:49.359 --> 00:46:52.359 the so 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.776 um we will receive information around if 00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:56.456 you use residential properties as an 00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.480 example um some streets or some suburbs 00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.055 their valuations will go up higher than 00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:04.216 others throughout the municipality. So 00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:07.240 it is based on sale prices. It is in um 00:47:07.680 --> 00:47:09.496 condition of property, condition of 00:47:09.520 --> 00:47:12.376 suburbs, um you know movements in the 00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:13.976 municipality generally. So there's a 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.055 whole range of information that goes 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.696 into developing that individual 00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:21.256 property valuation. I will correct you 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.095 on your your comment you made around it 00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:24.696 will guarantee that people's rates will 00:47:24.720 --> 00:47:26.536 go up. It won't be the case at all. Um 00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:28.936 certainly the or maybe the case depends 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:31.016 on what council decides. But um 00:47:31.040 --> 00:47:32.856 did I did I guarantee that? 00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:33.976 Yeah, certainly. Yeah. 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:35.736 Oh, I don't I don't think anyone's 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.760 property value is going to go down. 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.335 No, but it doesn't necessarily have an 00:47:41.359 --> 00:47:43.575 impact on rating. I guess 00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.095 we set the rates. 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.656 Yeah, correct. The rates will be um set 00:47:47.680 --> 00:47:49.976 at a separate time. The the key is once 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:51.896 the valuation notices um come out and 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:53.896 and we'll be really clear around this in 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:56.920 our messaging that um yeah, residents um 00:47:57.839 --> 00:47:59.896 do have the opportunity to object or 00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:01.976 appeal um to that valuation. and they'll 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:03.256 have a certain period in which they can 00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:04.856 do that and that will go to the value 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:06.216 general in which they can question and 00:48:06.240 --> 00:48:08.536 query the um the valuation that has been 00:48:08.560 --> 00:48:10.055 placed on their property. So it is 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:11.496 really important when those valuation 00:48:11.520 --> 00:48:14.520 notices go out um that our residents um 00:48:15.359 --> 00:48:18.136 take note of those and um and follow the 00:48:18.160 --> 00:48:19.896 appropriate process should they wish to 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:20.536 do so. 00:48:20.560 --> 00:48:23.560 Yeah. So in the scenario of say a 00:48:26.640 --> 00:48:28.776 dairy farmer 00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.656 and a dairy farmer has 100 acres with a 00:48:31.680 --> 00:48:34.680 dairy farm on it and the 100 acres next 00:48:34.720 --> 00:48:37.720 door has a new wind farm. 00:48:38.319 --> 00:48:41.319 Does the new wind farm the value of the 00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.376 new wind farm come into that like the 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.400 value of the new house 00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:50.616 come into the equation? 00:48:50.640 --> 00:48:52.776 the valuations are based on visual 00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.176 inspections. They're based on um you 00:48:55.200 --> 00:48:58.136 know written data. Um so that that would 00:48:58.160 --> 00:48:59.815 be taken into account. 00:48:59.839 --> 00:49:01.656 Thank you. Yeah. Thanks. 00:49:01.680 --> 00:49:03.815 Thank you councelor Aitken. Just before I 00:49:03.839 --> 00:49:05.496 move to councelor Keygan just like to 00:49:05.520 --> 00:49:07.095 inform the live stream is now back on 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.176 and apologies to those at home when we 00:49:09.200 --> 00:49:11.016 lost connection. Councelor Keygan. 00:49:11.040 --> 00:49:12.055 Yeah. Thank you. It was just a 00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:14.295 clarification about the live stream. 00:49:14.319 --> 00:49:17.095 When the live stream like recording goes 00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:19.256 down or the video goes down, are we 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.280 still recording the meeting? 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:24.295 That to you? 00:49:24.319 --> 00:49:26.136 , no. 00:49:26.160 --> 00:49:28.055 In that case, are we because we're 00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:30.616 required to record open session 00:49:30.640 --> 00:49:32.456 meetings? When the live stream goes down 00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.480 in the future, are we then not required 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.599 to cease the meeting until we get that 00:49:39.520 --> 00:49:41.095 back up and running? 00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.896 I I think it was an extended period. um 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.055 we would certainly do that. Um this was 00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:48.856 a quick reset of the of the system so we 00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:50.856 might have lost a minute or two during 00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:53.176 that process but if it was um deemed to 00:49:53.200 --> 00:49:54.535 be something more substantial we would 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:56.456 look at what what mechanisms we need to 00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:57.016 take place. 00:49:57.040 --> 00:49:58.856 Yep. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you 00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:00.856 councelor Kee and councel a did you have 00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.815 something else? 00:50:03.839 --> 00:50:05.736 No, no, 00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:06.136 no. 00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:07.496 I was trying to think of something I 00:50:07.520 --> 00:50:09.256 could have made up that got said for the 00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:11.656 last minute or two, but 00:50:11.680 --> 00:50:13.575 okay. Any other questions without 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.599 notice? Great. Thank you. We'll move on. 00:50:17.520 --> 00:50:19.656 Page Thanks for the humor. I like it. 00:50:19.680 --> 00:50:21.736 Page 24, we've now got our officers 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:24.760 report, our tourism promotion amenity at 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.496 Burnie Airport. There's a recommend some 00:50:27.520 --> 00:50:29.416 recommendations there and there's a 00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:31.815 recommendation to note the report 00:50:31.839 --> 00:50:33.976 option number two. Could I please have a 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:35.896 mover for that? Councelor Boyd. Thank 00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:37.815 you. Second councelor Aitken. Councelor 00:50:37.839 --> 00:50:40.535 Boy, would you like to speak to that? 00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:42.456 Yes. Look, a bit of promotion doesn't do 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.176 any harm at the airport, but our Burnie 00:50:45.200 --> 00:50:47.176 is really not a tourism airport, but 00:50:47.200 --> 00:50:49.656 just a few came through. And I think 00:50:49.680 --> 00:50:51.496 since the crotus have been flying, we've 00:50:51.520 --> 00:50:53.815 got a few new passengers going out of 00:50:53.839 --> 00:50:55.656 there that and they've got to know the 00:50:55.680 --> 00:50:58.136 area bit better, too, which is good. And 00:50:58.160 --> 00:51:00.376 I've heard a few reports of that. So, 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.055 there's a bit more action there with the 00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:05.079 the dual roles of of but be nice to have 00:51:05.680 --> 00:51:07.736 a few more tourists come through there. 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:09.256 I'm thinking in Melbourne sometime or 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:11.496 Sydney when they saw the flights they 00:51:11.520 --> 00:51:12.776 don't realize that we haven't got a 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.800 we've got an airport on the coast anyway 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.095 it's all good 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.815 thank you councelor boy councelor peas 00:51:19.839 --> 00:51:21.335 oh sorry not councelor peace councelor 00:51:21.359 --> 00:51:24.359 graves apologies 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:25.976 thank you acting mayor nearly as good 00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:29.000 looking um the 00:51:29.520 --> 00:51:31.736 yeah the report great to have the 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:34.760 report back um I thought it was probably 00:51:35.680 --> 00:51:38.136 a little bit different to where I was 00:51:38.160 --> 00:51:40.216 heading with the motion I originally put 00:51:40.240 --> 00:51:43.240 in. Um there's some great benefit in the 00:51:43.520 --> 00:51:46.376 in the report. Um and would like to 00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.400 thank West by Northwest Working and 00:51:49.680 --> 00:51:52.680 Business Northwest for um um getting 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:55.736 involved. the front of the airport's 00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.760 been painted since this report. So, 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.760 if anything come out of it, um they were 00:52:03.040 --> 00:52:04.696 they managed to get the front of the 00:52:04.720 --> 00:52:06.216 airport painted by the time we got the 00:52:06.240 --> 00:52:09.240 report. So that was great. Um, and 00:52:11.040 --> 00:52:14.040 I had a question probably to the GM in 00:52:14.240 --> 00:52:16.616 regards to 00:52:16.640 --> 00:52:19.496 the shipping container or some of the 00:52:19.520 --> 00:52:22.055 assets inside the shipping container if 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.456 that is decommissioned. Would that 00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:27.256 possibly be able to go to somewhere like 00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:29.976 the Wyard airport to run the visitor 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:31.815 kiosk over there or screens if we've got 00:52:31.839 --> 00:52:34.839 that technology and no longer using it? 00:52:38.160 --> 00:52:41.160 through your we probably haven't 00:52:41.280 --> 00:52:44.136 given that specific example um too much 00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:47.160 consideration to to be honest. Um 00:52:47.839 --> 00:52:49.575 yeah, we can give that some thought, but 00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:51.095 I haven't I can't really give you an 00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:52.535 answer at this point in time. 00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.559 Yeah. Yeah. And I guess like the 00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:58.216 intent of my motion, it it may have been 00:52:58.240 --> 00:53:01.240 poorly worded, but it was just to get 00:53:01.520 --> 00:53:04.055 people collaborative like Business 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.079 Northwest and um um other groups like 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:10.920 the airport just to um it was looking 00:53:11.200 --> 00:53:13.416 fairly plain over at the the Burnie 00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.440 airport. There was empty walls. Um I I 00:53:17.200 --> 00:53:18.696 know we've got a great collection in the 00:53:18.720 --> 00:53:20.376 winter's collection. We've got historic 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.400 photos of the the Winyard airport. Um, 00:53:23.520 --> 00:53:25.256 we've got an art gallery with a storage 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:28.280 room overflowing with artwork. Um, what 00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:30.456 could possibly go on loan to the, you 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:32.616 know, the Burnie airport for 6 months? I 00:53:32.640 --> 00:53:35.640 was just looking um at cheap ways to 00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:38.376 make that building look fantastic with 00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:41.176 stuff we already had like the the 00:53:41.200 --> 00:53:43.896 gear in the tourism container if 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:45.736 that's no longer our our mission to head 00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:47.575 down that path. So, I think it's great 00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:49.736 that there's a few groups talking and I 00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:51.416 would encourage the groups who've 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.335 already been involved to stay involved 00:53:53.359 --> 00:53:56.359 and let's keep moving forward to jazz 00:53:56.640 --> 00:53:59.176 that airport up um as good as we can on 00:53:59.200 --> 00:54:02.136 a shoestring and make it vibrant for 00:54:02.160 --> 00:54:04.936 visitors who come in because when you 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.416 when you have a large majority ownership 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.440 of an airport um I think you should walk 00:54:10.640 --> 00:54:12.616 in and know that it is is Burnie and 00:54:12.640 --> 00:54:15.496 part of Burnie and let's get some 00:54:15.520 --> 00:54:17.256 photos of the photo gardens up on the 00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.280 walls and um different places and we got 00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:23.256 the imagery. So, um doesn't cost much to 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.095 to jazz a place up and let people know, 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:26.616 hey, we're in Burnie. 00:54:26.640 --> 00:54:28.295 Thanks very much, Councelor Grave. 00:54:28.319 --> 00:54:29.416 Councelor Lynch. 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.736 Um yeah, I and I'm happy to run with 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:33.736 option two. I just I'm a little not 00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:36.055 concerned, but I did read this and go, 00:54:36.079 --> 00:54:38.616 hm. Um it's talked about regional 00:54:38.640 --> 00:54:40.696 partners. So, Ton Stanley Tasting Tri 00:54:40.720 --> 00:54:42.376 obviously includes us. we can be a 00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:43.736 partner in there and put our own stuff 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:46.216 up as councelor Grave has suggested. So 00:54:46.240 --> 00:54:47.815 that makes sense to me. But then it 00:54:47.839 --> 00:54:49.896 talks about subject to the capacity to 00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:51.736 fund the installation and ongoing 00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:53.896 display cost. If worse comes to worse 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.136 and these groups can't actually stump up 00:54:56.160 --> 00:54:57.815 the money for the installation, what 00:54:57.839 --> 00:55:00.839 will we end up with? 00:55:02.160 --> 00:55:04.295 well the specific answer to that 00:55:04.319 --> 00:55:05.496 question, you end up with nothing. 00:55:05.520 --> 00:55:08.520 Right. Okay. 00:55:08.640 --> 00:55:10.136 All right. Well, that answers the 00:55:10.160 --> 00:55:11.656 question. But having said that, we still 00:55:11.680 --> 00:55:14.680 have the capacity or that the B arts has 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:17.496 the capacity to put some items out there 00:55:17.520 --> 00:55:20.520 under this model of number two. So 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:22.376 yes, my understanding is that 00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:25.176 essentially this model is um identifying 00:55:25.200 --> 00:55:27.095 areas within the airport that could be 00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.335 used for a photo or a screen or whatever 00:55:29.359 --> 00:55:32.136 the case may be. Um opening I'll call it 00:55:32.160 --> 00:55:33.575 for one of a bit of phrase an expression 00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:36.055 of interest or approaching people to say 00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.136 um you know roend gun would you like 00:55:38.160 --> 00:55:40.376 this space yes or no? and this is what 00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:42.456 you potentially need to contribute. So 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.216 it would be working with active partners 00:55:44.240 --> 00:55:47.240 for for them um to display their um 00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.295 their wares um as they they so desire. 00:55:50.319 --> 00:55:51.815 So it's it's an opening up through that 00:55:51.839 --> 00:55:54.535 type of process as opposed to council 00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.775 driving delivering um everything through 00:55:56.799 --> 00:55:57.815 their own accord. 00:55:57.839 --> 00:55:59.815 That's great. I I'm I just I'm 00:55:59.839 --> 00:56:01.656 clarifying that myself. So are we will 00:56:01.680 --> 00:56:03.335 we be driving that process or there'll 00:56:03.359 --> 00:56:05.095 be someone else on board to help drive 00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:06.136 the 00:56:06.160 --> 00:56:08.216 Yeah, look I don't know the specifics to 00:56:08.240 --> 00:56:09.896 be fair. I'm not sure if that'll be um 00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.136 coordinated through the airport or um 00:56:12.160 --> 00:56:14.136 through our friends at West by Northwest 00:56:14.160 --> 00:56:16.456 or um any other bodies for that matter. 00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:18.295 I think um I'm sure there's people that 00:56:18.319 --> 00:56:20.456 know the detail. Um but I I don't at 00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:21.656 this point in time. 00:56:21.680 --> 00:56:22.136 Yeah. 00:56:22.160 --> 00:56:23.575 No, that's all right. I just wanted to 00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:25.095 clarify that. I think it's great. Thank 00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:26.936 you, Councelor Grave again for the 00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:28.696 initial motion and I look forward to 00:56:28.720 --> 00:56:30.055 what we can do there. Yeah. 00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:33.079 Thank you, Council Lynch. Councel Doors. 00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:35.896 Um I'm I'm agreeing with councelor Grave 00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.896 in this. I didn't think it was became 00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:39.256 bigger than Ben her. It was just meant 00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:40.936 to be something simple. I thought, you 00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:42.616 know, from the motion was we were going 00:56:42.640 --> 00:56:44.856 to put pictures of Burnie and and you 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.416 know, maybe the airport history or, you 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:48.696 know, the winners's collection is a 00:56:48.720 --> 00:56:51.720 perfect, you know, perfect thing. And 00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:54.535 I don't know where how it got to this, 00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:55.815 but that's, you know, I mean, I'm going 00:56:55.839 --> 00:56:58.136 to support option two because it's the 00:56:58.160 --> 00:57:01.160 least cost to us. But as far as anyone 00:57:01.520 --> 00:57:03.016 advertising out there, they can work 00:57:03.040 --> 00:57:04.216 that out with the airport. They don't 00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:06.055 need to go through us. They don't work 00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:07.496 it out with the airport. See what they 00:57:07.520 --> 00:57:10.520 say. But all all I said I agree with 00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:12.136 what council graves said and that was my 00:57:12.160 --> 00:57:13.976 understanding of the motion before. 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:15.256 We're going to put pictures of Burnie. 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:16.775 The roto garden doesn't have to pay us 00:57:16.799 --> 00:57:18.696 to put up a picture of the roto garden 00:57:18.720 --> 00:57:20.456 and and put underneath the Burnie, you 00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:23.480 know, the emu valley dendum garden or 00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:26.295 any any site in Burnie. You can put D 00:57:26.319 --> 00:57:27.575 falls out there. You can put anything 00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:29.575 out there. But it's Burnie's airport. 00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.599 Why don't we just put images of Burnie? 00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:35.736 um 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:38.760 um I can't think of the word but 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:40.456 promote Burnie and that's that's the 00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:42.856 point of it and to promote our history 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.815 and to promote you know you look in the 00:57:45.839 --> 00:57:47.575 um Burnie arts there's a lot of old 00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:49.016 pictures up there and they're 00:57:49.040 --> 00:57:51.416 interesting and I agree with Casser 00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:54.440 Grave again the airport's all you know 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:57.095 it's not much time to spend there so 00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.335 yeah all support number two but I I 00:57:59.359 --> 00:58:00.616 think it's gotten blown out of 00:58:00.640 --> 00:58:01.815 proportion it was just meant to be 00:58:01.839 --> 00:58:03.736 something simple that we could do to 00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.136 jazz up the airport as he said and make 00:58:06.160 --> 00:58:07.736 it look better and promote Burnie at the 00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:09.575 same time. 00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:11.736 Thank you, Council Dorsey. councelor 00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:14.760 Aitken and then councelor P. 00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.016 Yeah, pretty much reiterating council 00:58:17.040 --> 00:58:19.736 Dorsey and councelor Graves 00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.760 sentiments. Um governments, 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.016 councils organi, government 00:58:25.040 --> 00:58:27.736 organizations have a way of taking 00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.216 something simple and making it 00:58:30.240 --> 00:58:31.736 complicated. 00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:34.696 Um, 00:58:34.720 --> 00:58:37.095 my understanding back at the day was 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:39.416 it's dull, it's boring, let's do 00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:41.815 something, let's promote it. Not 00:58:41.839 --> 00:58:44.839 necessarily get tied up with trying to 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:47.815 lease walls to people and things like 00:58:47.839 --> 00:58:50.216 that. I mean, I think 00:58:50.240 --> 00:58:52.535 if you've got nothing, I think if you 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:54.696 went and done something tomorrow, it 00:58:54.720 --> 00:58:57.575 would be a good start without all the 00:58:57.599 --> 00:58:59.815 thing. Whether it be very simple things 00:58:59.839 --> 00:59:02.616 like literally 00:59:02.640 --> 00:59:05.640 plaster a wall in photos or do some 00:59:05.839 --> 00:59:08.839 promotion or just do anything other than 00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:11.335 looking at plain walls. It was one of 00:59:11.359 --> 00:59:14.216 those ones that what seemed like a 00:59:14.240 --> 00:59:17.240 simple idea at the time has 00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.295 become significantly complicated 00:59:20.319 --> 00:59:23.095 unfortunately but that is kind of what 00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:25.016 happens with government. 00:59:25.040 --> 00:59:27.416 Thank you councelor Aitken 00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:29.256 right councelor Peace. Any other 00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:31.496 discussion? Are we good? I'll put that 00:59:31.520 --> 00:59:33.256 one to the motion. All those in favor 00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:35.335 please raise your right hand. That's 00:59:35.359 --> 00:59:38.359 unanimous. Thank you very much. Go to 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.896 page 33. There's a recommendation there 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:43.656 that council note the order to general's 00:59:43.680 --> 00:59:45.736 report on the financial statements of 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:47.656 state entities tabled in parliament on 00:59:47.680 --> 00:59:50.295 the 16th of March 2026. Could I have a 00:59:50.319 --> 00:59:52.216 mover? Councelor Keygan. Councelor P 00:59:52.240 --> 00:59:54.055 seconding. Councelor Keygan, did you 00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:55.176 have any comments? 00:59:55.200 --> 00:59:58.136 Yeah, thank you. Um I won't expect the 00:59:58.160 --> 01:00:00.616 general public or the gallery to have 01:00:00.640 --> 01:00:03.640 read through the auditor general's 01:00:03.680 --> 01:00:06.295 report but I would just like to 01:00:06.319 --> 01:00:09.319 highlight that um Burnie has recorded an 01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:11.815 underlying surplus for the last four 01:00:11.839 --> 01:00:13.335 years in line with our financial 01:00:13.359 --> 01:00:15.496 management strategy and our financial 01:00:15.520 --> 01:00:17.095 report later in the agenda also 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:18.696 indicates that we are on track for a 01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:20.616 surplus at the end of this financial 01:00:20.640 --> 01:00:23.496 year. The report also indicates that 01:00:23.520 --> 01:00:26.520 Burnie's rate increases were slightly 01:00:26.640 --> 01:00:29.416 above the average increase for urban 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.136 councils across the state in 2223 and 01:00:32.160 --> 01:00:33.896 2324. 01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:36.920 However, pleasingly in 2425, our rates 01:00:37.200 --> 01:00:39.335 increase was lower than the average 01:00:39.359 --> 01:00:41.496 increase across the state, indicating 01:00:41.520 --> 01:00:43.335 that some of the very tough decisions 01:00:43.359 --> 01:00:45.736 that council made a couple of years ago 01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:48.055 are paying off and bringing us back in 01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:50.696 line to where we need to be financially. 01:00:50.720 --> 01:00:52.376 And I want to take this opportunity to 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.216 thank our community for their patience 01:00:54.240 --> 01:00:55.896 with this process because I know that 01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:57.976 those decisions have been really 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.856 difficult for some in our community. 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:02.856 It's also really exciting to note that 01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:05.095 Burnie has finally achieved a cash 01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:07.496 expense ratio that sees us holding more 01:01:07.520 --> 01:01:10.136 than 3 months of uncommitted cash 01:01:10.160 --> 01:01:11.976 holdings. And that brings us in line 01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:13.736 with the auditor general's 01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.760 recommended benchmark um of 3 to 6 01:01:17.040 --> 01:01:19.496 months. And that's the recommended level 01:01:19.520 --> 01:01:22.520 for a council of this size. So while we 01:01:22.799 --> 01:01:25.799 still have some way to go, I am really 01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:27.976 pleased with the financial progress that 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:29.656 we've been making over the past couple 01:01:29.680 --> 01:01:32.136 of years and take this opportunity as 01:01:32.160 --> 01:01:33.976 well to thank the staff for the 01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:35.656 exceptional amount of work that they 01:01:35.680 --> 01:01:38.680 have done in assisting counselors with 01:01:39.040 --> 01:01:41.176 the information that we need in order to 01:01:41.200 --> 01:01:44.136 bring us to this point. Um it is 01:01:44.160 --> 01:01:46.535 reflective of a really clear commitment 01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.559 to disciplined spending and long-term 01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.295 financial sustainability and very much 01:01:52.319 --> 01:01:54.535 looking forward to the future where we 01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:57.559 can now start to reinvest back into our 01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.696 community with some confidence. 01:02:00.720 --> 01:02:02.295 Thank you councelor Keygan for saying 01:02:02.319 --> 01:02:04.775 that so well and for explaining that 01:02:04.799 --> 01:02:06.136 really well to the gallery and those 01:02:06.160 --> 01:02:08.456 online. Thank you. Any other comments? 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:10.136 Councelor Peace. Yeah, look at the risk 01:02:10.160 --> 01:02:11.896 of repeating a couple of things. As 01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:13.416 council King said, fourth underlying 01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.136 surplus, a rates increase was 1% below 01:02:16.160 --> 01:02:17.815 the state average for urban councils 01:02:17.839 --> 01:02:19.335 last year, but still a bit ahead over 01:02:19.359 --> 01:02:21.016 the four-year period. So, it means we've 01:02:21.040 --> 01:02:23.496 got an important budget coming up to try 01:02:23.520 --> 01:02:25.416 and get down below the state average 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:27.736 over the last four years. , our 01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:29.496 capital spending over the last four 01:02:29.520 --> 01:02:31.335 years is above average, but did slip 01:02:31.359 --> 01:02:33.496 last year. So, again, there's an area we 01:02:33.520 --> 01:02:35.976 need to focus on. Our cash positions 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:37.736 dramatically improved as has been said, 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:40.535 but we still have a 5.4 $4 million debt. 01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:42.616 So, we're not out of the woods yet, 01:02:42.640 --> 01:02:44.936 unfortunately. And our asset 01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:46.936 sustainability has improved. We are 01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:48.856 coming from a position of years of 01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:51.176 underspending. So, that's going to still 01:02:51.200 --> 01:02:53.815 take a lot of time to catch up. Overall, 01:02:53.839 --> 01:02:56.616 dramatic improvement in all in all areas 01:02:56.640 --> 01:02:59.640 since 2018. and considering that 01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.055 we're impacted very negatively by CO 01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:03.656 during that time, it is a massive 01:03:03.680 --> 01:03:05.176 improvement. 01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:06.775 I'm hoping for an even better 01:03:06.799 --> 01:03:09.176 performance from this current 25 26 year 01:03:09.200 --> 01:03:11.095 given a full period under the GM's 01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:13.335 management. So no pressure being shown 01:03:13.359 --> 01:03:15.256 at all. 01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:17.815 None at all. 01:03:17.839 --> 01:03:19.736 Thank you councelor Peas. No pressure at 01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:22.616 all. Any other Thank you councelor Peas. 01:03:22.640 --> 01:03:25.640 Any other comments 01:03:26.799 --> 01:03:29.416 before he leaves us? All right we'll put 01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:31.095 that to the vote. All those in favor 01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:33.256 please raise your right hand. That's 01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:35.815 unanimous. Thank you. 01:03:35.839 --> 01:03:37.976 Don't go yet. 01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:41.000 page 97, there's a recommendation 01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:42.696 there that council accepts a tender 01:03:42.720 --> 01:03:44.216 submission from Hardings Group 01:03:44.240 --> 01:03:46.295 Proprietary Limited for the sum the sums 01:03:46.319 --> 01:03:48.936 there excluding GST for contract 2731 01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:50.775 the traffic islands and safety program 01:03:50.799 --> 01:03:53.095 on Brooklyn Road. Could I have a mover 01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:54.936 for that? Thank you councelor Dorsey and 01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.176 seconded councelor Grave. Councelor 01:03:57.200 --> 01:03:59.656 Dorsey did you want to make a comment? 01:03:59.680 --> 01:04:02.055 No. Councelor Grave, any other comments? 01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:03.015 Councelor Peas, 01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:05.256 look, just a general comment. I noticed 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:08.280 that the tender is $142,000 above what 01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.400 was budgeted, but it's easily funded by 01:04:11.839 --> 01:04:14.839 $193,000 under spend on another project. 01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:17.815 So, the actual overall it's no issue, 01:04:17.839 --> 01:04:19.815 but I think what worries me is that we 01:04:19.839 --> 01:04:22.839 have two two budgeted projects that are 01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.376 both so far out of what we anticipated. 01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:28.216 So I think it's just and I know I've 01:04:28.240 --> 01:04:29.815 spoken about this before and I and you 01:04:29.839 --> 01:04:31.416 know I'm reassured from senior 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:32.376 management that there will be 01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:34.376 improvements but it just shows that our 01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:36.295 budgeting process isn't as good as it 01:04:36.319 --> 01:04:39.319 needs to be at this stage. 01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:41.416 Thank you councelor Peas. Any other 01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:42.616 comments? Council Lynch 01:04:42.640 --> 01:04:44.295 just to follow up on that comment for 01:04:44.319 --> 01:04:47.095 councelor Peace. It is this variation 01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.119 due to current global events of oil and 01:04:50.240 --> 01:04:53.240 bmen going up or is it 01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:55.335 Yeah, thank you. I'll throw that to 01:04:55.359 --> 01:04:58.055 Peter if that's all right. 01:04:58.079 --> 01:04:59.656 Certainly. Yeah. Through you, Deputy 01:04:59.680 --> 01:05:02.680 Mayor. look, page 98 does give some 01:05:03.520 --> 01:05:06.520 background on that. Um there would be 01:05:06.640 --> 01:05:09.496 Yes, there would be some portion 01:05:09.520 --> 01:05:10.856 that's attributable with that. Not a 01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:13.496 lot, but some portion of that. But 01:05:13.520 --> 01:05:15.976 again, the there's a bit of a um 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:18.295 description there of of some of the 01:05:18.319 --> 01:05:21.176 reasoning why the um the price for this 01:05:21.200 --> 01:05:24.200 one is as different as it is. 01:05:24.240 --> 01:05:24.856 Thank you. 01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:27.880 Thank you, Peter. Any other discussion? 01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:29.815 No. I'll throw that to the motion then. 01:05:29.839 --> 01:05:31.496 All those in favor, please raise your 01:05:31.520 --> 01:05:34.520 right hand. That's unanimous. Thank you. 01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:38.775 Now go to page 101. It's a 01:05:38.799 --> 01:05:40.216 recommendation there that council note 01:05:40.240 --> 01:05:41.896 the finance report for the quarter end 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.856 of the 31st of March 2026 as attached. 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:46.216 Can I please have a mover? Thank you, 01:05:46.240 --> 01:05:48.216 Councelor Peas and Council Lynch to 01:05:48.240 --> 01:05:50.856 second. Councelor Peas. Oh, look, just 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:53.815 in summary, it's um another very good 01:05:53.839 --> 01:05:56.216 performance so far. So, well done GM. 01:05:56.240 --> 01:05:59.240 So, living up to expectations so far. Um 01:06:00.160 --> 01:06:02.295 we're going essentially we had a 01:06:02.319 --> 01:06:03.656 break even budget. Now we're looking 01:06:03.680 --> 01:06:05.256 like we could have a surplus of as much 01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:07.815 as $3 million. So, um we still got 3 01:06:07.839 --> 01:06:09.736 months to go, which is a long way to go 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:11.496 in in terms of financial performance, 01:06:11.520 --> 01:06:14.520 but um it really does all go well and 01:06:14.720 --> 01:06:17.720 should help us when in our budget 01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:20.055 deliberations. Thank you, councelor 01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:21.575 Peace. 01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:23.736 Any other discussion from the table? 01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:24.535 Council Lynch, 01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:26.376 I'll just echo that and congratulations 01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:28.376 to the GM, but I think also probably 01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.015 it's be remiss of us to not to thank all 01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.976 council staff. Results like this, you 01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:35.736 know, as much as Mr. Crawford would like 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:38.696 to probably claim them as his own. Um, 01:06:38.720 --> 01:06:40.775 they come from the from the whole staff. 01:06:40.799 --> 01:06:43.799 Um, who, you know, from someone saving 01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:46.055 an extra little bit here or there or 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:47.575 whatever and people all buying into what 01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:50.599 we try to do. So, so thank you um GM and 01:06:50.720 --> 01:06:53.720 thank you to all the staff. Thank you. 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:56.616 Thank you, Council Lynch. Council Dorsey, 01:06:56.640 --> 01:06:58.376 I was just looking for a clarification 01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:01.400 on page 01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:04.440 105 on reoccurrent income. We have 01:07:04.640 --> 01:07:06.376 interest 01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:08.775 of a million dollar if I got that right. 01:07:08.799 --> 01:07:11.416 And then we have investment income. Now 01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:13.496 are they one and they're not one and the 01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:16.520 same obviously but are are is our money 01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:19.496 on call earning interest is that 01:07:19.520 --> 01:07:20.856 investment income or is that interest 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:22.456 income and what's the difference between 01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:25.480 the two 01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:28.616 what sorry councel doy could you just 01:07:28.640 --> 01:07:29.736 tell me the paid to you on 01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:31.095 105 01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:32.936 we have interest 01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:34.936 through ma'am finance report yeah 01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:37.960 just looking quickly the no 01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.000 oh sorry thank you um no no interest um 01:07:43.680 --> 01:07:46.456 as in term deposits and um you know 01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:47.896 money that's put away in the in the bank 01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:49.896 is in the interest area. Investment 01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:52.920 income would be returns from Taz 01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:54.856 Water and 01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:56.055 No, that's what I needed enough. Thank 01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:58.136 you. 01:07:58.160 --> 01:07:59.736 Thank you, Council Dorsey. Any other 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:02.136 questions? No, I'll put that to the 01:08:02.160 --> 01:08:03.896 motion. All those in favor, please raise 01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:06.535 your right hand. That's unanimous. Thank 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:09.095 you. 01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.119 Go to page 113, governance report. 01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:13.335 There's a recommendation there that 01:08:13.359 --> 01:08:15.575 council council note the government 01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:17.496 report as presented. Could I have a 01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:19.255 move? Thank you, councelor Keygan and 01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:21.655 second 01:08:21.679 --> 01:08:23.496 council akin. Thank you, councelor 01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:24.135 Keygan. 01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:27.096 Yeah, thank you. It's page 01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:30.120 18, the community support that's been 01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.640 approved under delegation. 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:37.000 very excited for both of these events, 01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:40.520 including the Reflections 80th 01:08:40.719 --> 01:08:43.496 graduation concerts. I note that the 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:46.520 date of that has been um tabled in this 01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:50.359 report. The women's rugby magic round um 01:08:52.480 --> 01:08:54.456 which is the 4-day event coming to 01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:57.480 Burnie that's coming on May 23rd, I 01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.359 believe. Um is when it begins. so I 01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:06.199 would um encourage everybody to get up 01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:09.255 there and 01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.735 for girls and women can come along and 01:09:11.759 --> 01:09:14.759 and try um and 01:09:16.080 --> 01:09:19.080 just wanted to ask I'm sure it was just 01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:22.135 an oversight this time but when we are 01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:23.976 sponsoring events if we could just have 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.000 the date noted in the report as well for 01:09:27.440 --> 01:09:28.775 all of those that would be really 01:09:28.799 --> 01:09:30.536 useful. 01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.560 Then the bottom of page 118, the audit 01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:37.255 um another auditor general's report, but 01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:40.279 it's a followup on a previous report for 01:09:41.120 --> 01:09:44.056 an audit in 202122. 01:09:44.080 --> 01:09:45.815 I'm not sure if anyone's gone and had a 01:09:45.839 --> 01:09:48.839 look at it. Um I went and had a brief um 01:09:50.480 --> 01:09:53.480 peruse of it and it's very pleasing to 01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:55.576 see that in the updated auditor 01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:58.135 general's report um for GM recruitment 01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.159 that Burnie has actually implemented all 01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:03.016 of the recommendations that were 01:10:03.040 --> 01:10:06.040 required of us um by that audit. So, 01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:09.960 thank you for um to our staff for that 01:10:10.080 --> 01:10:11.496 good work because I know that there was 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:14.135 a lot of work behind the scenes in 01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:16.456 bringing our governance um and our 01:10:16.480 --> 01:10:19.016 records up to date or up to standard 01:10:19.040 --> 01:10:21.016 rather. 01:10:21.040 --> 01:10:22.616 Thank you, Councelor Kian. Yeah, big 01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:24.056 round of applause. Thanks, Councelor 01:10:24.080 --> 01:10:26.456 Lynch. Any other comments? Councelor 01:10:26.480 --> 01:10:27.175 Dorsey. 01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:29.976 Yes. On page 126, I already know the 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:31.416 answer, but we're going to make it 01:10:31.440 --> 01:10:34.135 public. Motion on signal. Motion on 01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:37.159 notice. artwork on signal boxes. 01:10:37.280 --> 01:10:39.016 Um can you tell us the progress with 01:10:39.040 --> 01:10:41.976 that? 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.616 through deputy mayor. Yes. So we have 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:46.936 had some good progress on this one um in 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:49.960 in a couple of avenues. So um we've done 01:10:50.320 --> 01:10:52.776 some work with TAZ networks and met with 01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:55.096 them earlier today to look at some 01:10:55.120 --> 01:10:57.336 assets outside of the CBD. So there's 01:10:57.360 --> 01:10:59.736 some that um officers have nominated 01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:02.376 that we're in the process of looking at 01:11:02.400 --> 01:11:05.175 what um what materials and what type of 01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:07.175 artwork we can do on those whether that 01:11:07.199 --> 01:11:09.816 be paint aerosol or or vinyl wrapping. 01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:11.655 Um Taz networks have also announced that 01:11:11.679 --> 01:11:13.736 they will provide some funding towards 01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:16.760 those those particular assets. Um and as 01:11:17.440 --> 01:11:20.376 for within the CBD council have done a 01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:23.175 lot of work um around identifying assets 01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:25.816 for DSG TAZ networks and and the council 01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.840 owned ones and we are doing some work on 01:11:30.320 --> 01:11:32.776 um as part of our urban plan around 01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:34.536 identifying a portion of those assets 01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:36.616 and looking at how we'll work with some 01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:39.640 local artists to to do some artwork on 01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:41.976 those. Whether we um divide those up by 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.456 precincts or whether we pick them indiv 01:11:44.480 --> 01:11:46.215 as individual assets, that's still to be 01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:48.936 determined, but um we're hoping to keep 01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:50.856 that moving over the next month or so 01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:52.456 and and come out to the public with some 01:11:52.480 --> 01:11:55.016 more information on that process. So, 01:11:55.040 --> 01:11:56.456 thank you very much. That's great news. 01:11:56.480 --> 01:11:58.135 Um 01:11:58.159 --> 01:11:59.896 we did bring this up in a workshop that, 01:11:59.920 --> 01:12:01.096 you know, we were always told that we 01:12:01.120 --> 01:12:02.936 couldn't paint them, but then I saw our 01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:05.960 staff painting them. 01:12:06.320 --> 01:12:07.736 We can paint them our blue. We can paint 01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:09.896 them whatever color we want. So, it's 01:12:09.920 --> 01:12:11.896 really good news and I think finally 01:12:11.920 --> 01:12:14.695 after the deputy mayor's raised a motion 01:12:14.719 --> 01:12:16.215 about it, I've raised a motion about it. 01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:18.135 I know someone else has also to get 01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:20.776 these signal boxes painted. Um, it looks 01:12:20.800 --> 01:12:23.336 like this. 01:12:23.360 --> 01:12:26.296 Do you have a timeline 01:12:26.320 --> 01:12:27.976 might happen within a reasonable period 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:28.296 of time? 01:12:28.320 --> 01:12:29.655 True, deputy mayor. I'd be nervous to 01:12:29.679 --> 01:12:31.576 put a timeline on it um considering the 01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:34.600 the the pressure leading up to it 01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:36.856 and the long-standing um nature of it. 01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:38.536 But no, look, we are progressing quite 01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:40.536 well. So, as I said, we've got some 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.215 funding announced by Taz Network. So, 01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:43.816 really, it'll be about running our 01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:45.816 public art process. So, we'll need to do 01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:48.840 that. Um, we we'll um we're in the 01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:50.616 active moment of doing that. Now, we've 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:52.856 had our first meeting last week on what 01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:54.776 that public art process will look like. 01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:57.800 Um, so look, I'd be very hopeful to to 01:12:58.320 --> 01:12:59.976 have a public art process up and 01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:01.976 running, closed, and some selections 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:03.576 close to the end of the financial year 01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:06.536 and and ready to implement. So, 01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:08.056 And that's been recorded. Councelor 01:13:08.080 --> 01:13:11.016 Dorsey, so you're good. 01:13:11.040 --> 01:13:13.976 Thank you, Councelor Dorsey. Councelor A. 01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.000 Thank you. Um, 01:13:17.120 --> 01:13:20.120 8th of April, there was a Cradle Coast 01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:24.135 Housing Action 01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:26.135 meeting. 01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:29.159 Um, did that involve the Penguin Primary 01:13:30.480 --> 01:13:32.695 School or did the Penguin Primary School 01:13:32.719 --> 01:13:35.175 get a mention in that or 01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:37.496 any updates regarding Penguin Primary 01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:40.215 School and housing? Please. 01:13:40.239 --> 01:13:42.536 , through Deputy Mayor. No, that the 01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:44.215 um the 8th of April meeting you referred 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:46.856 to councelor Aitken was a credle coast 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:49.880 authority initiated roundt around um 01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:53.256 housing and u worker accommodation and 01:13:53.280 --> 01:13:55.175 and the challenges and opportunities 01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:58.199 that exist in that space. It was um with 01:13:58.480 --> 01:14:00.856 Minister Vincent and all of the councils 01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:03.880 from the the Northwest region um and and 01:14:04.320 --> 01:14:06.296 I guess a number of other um interested 01:14:06.320 --> 01:14:08.536 parties that participated in that. So 01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:11.416 the mayor and um deputy general manager 01:14:11.440 --> 01:14:14.215 attended that particular meeting 01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:17.239 um on our behalf. The Penguin Primary 01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:22.199 School um we have received some um I'll 01:14:23.360 --> 01:14:25.816 call them minor updates from Croto 01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:28.376 Authority. They continue to work um on 01:14:28.400 --> 01:14:31.096 that space. They're exploring solutions 01:14:31.120 --> 01:14:33.016 um but probably nothing more definitive 01:14:33.040 --> 01:14:34.616 at this point in time. 01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:37.640 Thank you. Um the other one was the 01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:39.576 motion 01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:42.600 regarding the burning in motion on 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.800 notice of the burning in um it has I was 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.776 just a bit confused that the 27th of 01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:53.800 August or it's listed as two motions. 01:14:55.120 --> 01:14:57.016 Did I 01:14:57.040 --> 01:15:00.040 am I not reading this right? 01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:04.135 So it's listed as the same motion but 01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:06.536 like two actions of one motion. 01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:09.560 So page 123 the bottom 01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:11.736 137 25. 01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:13.816 Yeah. So through you deputy may um 01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:15.096 you're not seeing things. There are two 01:15:15.120 --> 01:15:18.120 actions there. Um so in in essence one 01:15:18.320 --> 01:15:20.856 is to prepare the report so the heritage 01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:22.936 assessment against the Burniein. The 01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:25.416 second motion is the to develop the 01:15:25.440 --> 01:15:27.416 costing and the implementation of of the 01:15:27.440 --> 01:15:30.135 maintenance of the Burnie in itself. So 01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.536 one one will give us the report and and 01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:34.776 what the requirement is around looking 01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:36.215 after the building. The second one's 01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:39.175 then to provide back to council laws the 01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:41.016 costing of that associated report and 01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:42.776 what what the impacts are from that. 01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:45.416 Excellent. Thank you. 01:15:45.440 --> 01:15:47.175 Thank you councelor Aitken. Any other 01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:49.816 comments around the table? We go. We'll 01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:51.496 put that to the vote. All those in favor 01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:54.135 please raise your right hand. That's 01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:57.159 unanimous. Thank you. We'll go to page 01:15:57.280 --> 01:15:59.175 127. 01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:00.536 There's a recommendation there that 01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:02.296 council note the project delivery report 01:16:02.320 --> 01:16:04.456 for the quarter ending 31st of March 01:16:04.480 --> 01:16:07.480 2026 as attached. Could I have a mover 01:16:07.679 --> 01:16:09.896 for that? Thank you councelor Aitken. 01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:11.816 Second to councelor Keygan. Thank you 01:16:11.840 --> 01:16:13.016 councelor Aitken. Did you have any 01:16:13.040 --> 01:16:14.936 comments? 01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:17.960 Um yes it's quite a lengthy report and 01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:23.239 there is quite a bit 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:27.000 of action happening in Burnie and 01:16:29.440 --> 01:16:32.440 as councelor Peas has mentioned 01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:34.616 earlier I think that our completion 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:37.640 rates up above n state average um so 01:16:39.280 --> 01:16:41.175 we're cracking on or council's cracking 01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:42.936 on with a lot of projects which is 01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:44.536 fantastic 01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:46.215 01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:48.456 obviously we've we've we've still got 01:16:48.480 --> 01:16:50.215 issues with horseshoe bend that the 01:16:50.239 --> 01:16:53.239 council's still working on getting a 01:16:53.280 --> 01:16:55.655 solution to horseshoe bend and that's 01:16:55.679 --> 01:16:57.336 going to take a lot of time and a lot of 01:16:57.360 --> 01:17:00.360 money but um as a counselor and a rap 01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:03.736 reading through this I I was quite 01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:06.536 pleased with it that the where we are at 01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:08.135 the moment. Thank you. 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:10.456 Thank you councelor Aitken. 01:17:10.480 --> 01:17:12.456 Any other comments? Right. Thank you. 01:17:12.480 --> 01:17:13.496 Thank you. I'll put that to the vote. 01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:14.936 All those in favor, please raise your 01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:17.496 right hand. Unanimous. Thank you very 01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:19.576 much. 01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:21.976 We'll now go to page 143. There's a 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:23.496 recommendation there that council note 01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:25.736 the operational activity report for the 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.616 quarter ended 31st of March 2026 as 01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:30.296 attached. Could I have a move, please? 01:17:30.320 --> 01:17:32.215 Thank you, councelor Keygan. Seconded, 01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:34.776 councelor Grave. Councelor Keygan, do 01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:37.800 you have any comments? Councelor Grave. 01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:41.159 , just a quick one on page 146. 01:17:42.080 --> 01:17:45.080 the planning report I notice total 01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:48.199 applications lodge January was 10, 01:17:48.480 --> 01:17:51.480 February 10, March 11. Um 01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:56.199 yeah, I see these numbers seem to be 01:17:57.440 --> 01:17:59.976 down on previous years. 01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.056 Um 01:18:02.080 --> 01:18:04.376 well well behind Devport and we've 01:18:04.400 --> 01:18:07.400 slipped behind Central Coast. Um yeah, I 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:11.800 just wanted to see or have a question 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:15.159 to the GM. Um 01:18:15.280 --> 01:18:18.280 is there any reason for us to sort of 01:18:18.400 --> 01:18:20.215 tussle down the planning application 01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:23.239 ladder? And um also um I guess is there 01:18:25.280 --> 01:18:27.096 is there something we can do to attract 01:18:27.120 --> 01:18:29.576 more people to Burnie to lodge 01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:31.336 applications in Burnie? 01:18:31.360 --> 01:18:34.215 I noticed the West Coast if you build 01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:35.736 a new house in the West Coast, I don't 01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:37.175 think they charge you rates for the 01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:39.816 first year or I just wonder if we've 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:41.736 ever thought of trying to get more 01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:44.760 residences built here in Burnie. 01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:48.215 01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:50.776 through Deputy Mayor, your point is 01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:52.616 indeed correct, councelor Grave, there's 01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:54.776 certainly been a softening um in that 01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:57.175 space in in recent months and we've 01:18:57.199 --> 01:18:59.655 noticed that that trend. Um we 01:18:59.679 --> 01:19:01.976 haven't yet I guess actively explored 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:04.456 any proactive measures um to try and 01:19:04.480 --> 01:19:05.976 turn that around. Clearly we've been 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:08.695 working with the government around um 01:19:08.719 --> 01:19:10.616 fast track resoning and trying to open 01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:12.776 up um other land for development which 01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:15.336 we think will help but we um continue to 01:19:15.360 --> 01:19:17.736 wait to see what that progress um where 01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:19.736 that um heads from progress perspective 01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:22.215 but your point is well made and and um 01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:24.056 yeah we do need to start to explore some 01:19:24.080 --> 01:19:26.056 options in in that space. 01:19:26.080 --> 01:19:28.376 Yeah. Thank you, Council Councelor 01:19:28.400 --> 01:19:31.400 Lynch. , just on page 147, , just 01:19:33.360 --> 01:19:36.135 with the approval detail stuff and 01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:37.976 and I'm just I guess it's more of a 01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.456 comment. I' unusually high amount of 01:19:40.480 --> 01:19:41.736 canceled. I don't normally see 01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:44.135 cancelled. We sort of see approved and 01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.536 then or withdrawn, but it's a whole 01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:48.296 bunch sort of on the 30th of January. 01:19:48.320 --> 01:19:49.816 And I just wonder was that sort of an 01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:51.816 administrative thing that happened or 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:53.496 there's also a bunch over the page at 01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:55.576 all on the 10th of March as well. Same 01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:58.600 deal. Um, so I'm not suggesting anything 01:19:59.120 --> 01:20:00.936 underhand at all. It just caught my 01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:02.456 interest because I'm not used to seeing 01:20:02.480 --> 01:20:05.480 as many cancelled there. 01:20:07.360 --> 01:20:10.360 Perhaps um rather than me speculate, 01:20:10.719 --> 01:20:12.215 I might get some further information and 01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:13.576 come back to you on that one. 01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:14.776 Thank you. Yeah, it was just I just 01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:15.496 noticed it. 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.976 Thank you, Council Me. Councelor Pet. 01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:20.536 just a few through this report. the on 01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:22.296 page 152 the environmental health 01:20:22.320 --> 01:20:23.576 report. There were nine 01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:25.096 environmental/public 01:20:25.120 --> 01:20:27.096 health queries in March which is 01:20:27.120 --> 01:20:28.376 probably the highest I've seen on the 01:20:28.400 --> 01:20:30.296 time of council. Was this one specific 01:20:30.320 --> 01:20:32.695 incident or were a series was there 01:20:32.719 --> 01:20:35.016 anything specifically there? 01:20:35.040 --> 01:20:37.655 no through man not not one specific 01:20:37.679 --> 01:20:39.896 incident but I I think that um they 01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:42.920 haven't been consistently captured 01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:44.695 in the past. So I think we've got a 01:20:44.719 --> 01:20:47.016 better way of um recording that data 01:20:47.040 --> 01:20:48.856 now. So just for the interest of 01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:51.496 everyone um under that particular 01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:53.256 category all environmental and public 01:20:53.280 --> 01:20:55.256 health inquiries are now included. So 01:20:55.280 --> 01:20:57.896 that's um food complaints which were 01:20:57.920 --> 01:20:59.416 previously in a separate category. So 01:20:59.440 --> 01:21:01.816 that's been now now brought in 01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:03.896 um and broader public health matters you 01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:06.920 know mold needles um unhealthy premises 01:21:07.280 --> 01:21:09.256 notifiable diseases they all sort of 01:21:09.280 --> 01:21:11.256 bundled under that one heading now. So 01:21:11.280 --> 01:21:12.936 that will have a bit of an impact. Yeah. 01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:14.536 So the dual things of bringing them 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:17.560 together and also um getting more 01:21:18.719 --> 01:21:20.536 consistent reporting. 01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:21.896 Very good. Thank you. That makes a lot 01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:24.376 more sense. Um 01:21:24.400 --> 01:21:26.456 just noticed on page 160 the waste 01:21:26.480 --> 01:21:29.336 totals for the past 12 months. if I 01:21:29.360 --> 01:21:32.360 can find it, one of the grats has a dark 01:21:33.280 --> 01:21:35.016 green to light green element, but 01:21:35.040 --> 01:21:36.376 there's nothing in the key to explain 01:21:36.400 --> 01:21:38.695 what those dark green light green are. 01:21:38.719 --> 01:21:41.576 Oh, good pickup. 01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:44.600 So page 160 01:21:44.719 --> 01:21:45.576 y on the graph 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.056 the waste totals past 12 months 01:21:48.080 --> 01:21:50.056 the strategic considerations there 01:21:50.080 --> 01:21:52.456 number three 01:21:52.480 --> 01:21:55.480 you are indeed correct 01:21:55.920 --> 01:21:58.536 he knows his graphs 01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:00.215 yes I'm thinking it would be green wast 01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:03.239 and fogo but um we we do need to have 01:22:04.400 --> 01:22:06.615 I thought the same 01:22:06.639 --> 01:22:08.695 just thought I' yeah one to take on 01:22:08.719 --> 01:22:11.016 notice and yeah I The pleasing thing 01:22:11.040 --> 01:22:12.456 there is overall our amount of waste 01:22:12.480 --> 01:22:14.456 going to landfill is decreasing quite 01:22:14.480 --> 01:22:15.576 marketkedly. So that's the important 01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:17.976 thing in it I suppose. But yeah was just 01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:20.135 interested in that. I will just make a 01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:22.135 comment there on green waste because 01:22:22.159 --> 01:22:24.776 previously prior to our current policy 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:26.456 when people had the vouchers they could 01:22:26.480 --> 01:22:28.776 take a trailer load or a ute load of 01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:30.615 green waste to the tip for free a couple 01:22:30.639 --> 01:22:32.456 of times a year effectively using the 01:22:32.480 --> 01:22:35.016 vouchers. But now anything over 100 kg 01:22:35.040 --> 01:22:37.416 is charged. So I think that's perhaps 01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:38.456 something we can have a discussion 01:22:38.480 --> 01:22:40.056 around hopefully if other counselors 01:22:40.080 --> 01:22:42.135 agree when we get to budgeting because 01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:43.496 there have been a number of people who 01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:46.056 have said it's actually detrimental. You 01:22:46.080 --> 01:22:47.576 know yes they've got the 100 kilos in 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:49.416 the wheelie bin every fortnite in their 01:22:49.440 --> 01:22:51.896 foggo bin but those bulk loads if they 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:53.175 chopped a tree down or something of that 01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:55.016 sort is actually cost them a lot of 01:22:55.040 --> 01:22:57.416 money to get rid of. So just something 01:22:57.440 --> 01:22:59.416 for us to perhaps bring to discussion 01:22:59.440 --> 01:23:00.936 when we're we're on waste management 01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:03.175 during the budget deliberation. 01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:06.199 Um, page 166, the community and 01:23:06.320 --> 01:23:09.320 recreation usage facility graphs, which 01:23:09.360 --> 01:23:12.360 is really good, but it only tells us how 01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:14.056 many people use the facilities per 01:23:14.080 --> 01:23:16.215 occasion, not how often they're being 01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:18.536 used. So, it's sort of quite limited in 01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:20.936 its information to us. Is it possible to 01:23:20.960 --> 01:23:23.960 gather data on how often it's used? 01:23:24.080 --> 01:23:27.016 So like it tells us that I think the um 01:23:27.040 --> 01:23:29.336 Burnie Sports Center has 800 regular 01:23:29.360 --> 01:23:32.215 users but it doesn't tell us how often 01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:34.376 they use it. 01:23:34.400 --> 01:23:36.776 do you remember that I suspect this 01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:39.736 is usage 01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:40.936 this this is 01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:41.736 per occasion 01:23:41.760 --> 01:23:44.760 per per bookie I would suggest. So 01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:48.199 the gra um how often the community 01:23:48.639 --> 01:23:50.376 facilities are used over the 3 month 01:23:50.400 --> 01:23:51.816 period for organized activities. They 01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:54.376 don't capture ad hoc community use when 01:23:54.400 --> 01:23:56.695 there's no application but they do. So 01:23:56.719 --> 01:23:58.135 it's where there's an application to 01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:00.135 book a facility. I believe they that is 01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:02.536 what is recorded on that particular so 01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:04.776 upper Burnie Memorial Hall if we're 01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:06.056 looking at the same 01:24:06.080 --> 01:24:06.695 y 01:24:06.719 --> 01:24:09.719 graph is showing that um for that period 01:24:10.639 --> 01:24:13.639 for that quarter there was just under 01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:16.615 200 uses of the up burning memorial 01:24:16.639 --> 01:24:17.256 hall. 01:24:17.280 --> 01:24:18.695 So that's per quarter. 01:24:18.719 --> 01:24:20.536 Yeah. Yeah, it it surprises me because 01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:23.416 in the recreation facility usage 01:24:23.440 --> 01:24:25.256 in that case and there's about 900 01:24:25.280 --> 01:24:27.096 people use the Burnie Sports Center in a 01:24:27.120 --> 01:24:29.016 quarter which I would think would be way 01:24:29.040 --> 01:24:32.040 under the actual usage. 01:24:32.320 --> 01:24:34.456 I reckon it's probably 900 a week or 01:24:34.480 --> 01:24:35.976 900. 01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:37.496 So that's where I was a little bit 01:24:37.520 --> 01:24:40.520 confused 01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:43.880 relative to 01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:46.456 I think well I think we've probably 01:24:46.480 --> 01:24:49.480 spoken to it's a bit confusing. Yeah, 01:24:49.679 --> 01:24:51.175 if I can leave that with you anyway, 01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:53.175 just cuz it would be Yeah, it's just a 01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:54.695 bit of a confusing graph. 01:24:54.719 --> 01:24:56.296 Um, 01:24:56.320 --> 01:24:59.016 and my final one was just page 167, the 01:24:59.040 --> 01:25:00.456 marine terrace car park usage and 01:25:00.480 --> 01:25:02.776 revenue, which um perhaps speaks to 01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:05.336 council Dorsey's motion, you know, both 01:25:05.360 --> 01:25:07.976 revenue and usage down considerably. So, 01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.056 hence the need for some action there. 01:25:10.080 --> 01:25:11.896 Thank you, councelor Pe. Councelor 01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:14.615 Dorsey. Yeah, I was I was I got caught up 01:25:14.639 --> 01:25:17.639 on page 166 also that for the quarter 01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:23.336 what is it 10 people went to the Burnie 01:25:23.360 --> 01:25:24.936 park 01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:26.856 booked it I don't understand I don't I 01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:29.016 didn't understand it um for 01:25:29.040 --> 01:25:29.816 10 bookings 01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:30.456 10 bookings 01:25:30.480 --> 01:25:32.296 bookings um 01:25:32.320 --> 01:25:34.776 and the same thing with recreational the 01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:37.175 Burnie sports center and we keep like 01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:40.199 the net ball is that 01:25:40.480 --> 01:25:41.976 how many people use the netball courts 01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:43.175 during that period Tom, I don't know if 01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:44.936 that goes into something like this. Like 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:46.536 I said, it was just a curiosity question 01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:49.560 on that one. Um, 01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:53.655 so yeah, I didn't understand the graphs 01:25:53.679 --> 01:25:55.496 either. And I didn't, you know, who who 01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:57.576 would book the Burnie Park. Was that 01:25:57.600 --> 01:25:59.496 just for a birthday? 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.520 Yeah. Wedding um school levers. Um 01:26:03.360 --> 01:26:04.856 Oh, yeah. School levers. That would have 01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:07.736 happened. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. 01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:10.135 Thank you, Council Dorsey. No more 01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:13.159 questions. Yeah. 01:26:13.280 --> 01:26:14.376 Okay, we'll put that round to that 01:26:14.400 --> 01:26:15.896 motion to the table. Those in favor, 01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:18.296 please raise your right hand. Beautiful. 01:26:18.320 --> 01:26:21.320 That's unanimous. Thank you. Go to page 01:26:22.080 --> 01:26:23.896 168. There's a recommendation there that 01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:25.096 council note the community and 01:26:25.120 --> 01:26:26.695 engagement report for the quarter end of 01:26:26.719 --> 01:26:29.719 31st of March 2026 as attached. 01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:31.736 moved. Councelor Keygan. Thank you. 01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:34.135 Seconded. 01:26:34.159 --> 01:26:35.896 Councelor Peace. Thank you. Councelor 01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:37.976 Keygan, did you have any comments? Just 01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:40.615 a really quick one to say that this 01:26:40.639 --> 01:26:43.639 report is really um indicative and 01:26:44.719 --> 01:26:47.256 demonstrative of just how much there is 01:26:47.280 --> 01:26:50.280 happening in Burnie month to month. So 01:26:50.800 --> 01:26:53.800 it's quite an extensive list of 01:26:55.440 --> 01:26:58.440 special events and functions um many of 01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:01.960 which have council sponsorship and no 01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:05.336 cost associated with attendance. 01:27:05.360 --> 01:27:07.655 Thank you councelor Keygan. 01:27:07.679 --> 01:27:09.416 , Council Dorsey. 01:27:09.440 --> 01:27:11.496 Yes. Um, actually the thing that I 01:27:11.520 --> 01:27:13.736 noticed was the volunteers and that we 01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:16.760 put a monetary value on them. Um, a 01:27:17.280 --> 01:27:18.695 benefits calculator. I think it's at 01:27:18.719 --> 01:27:20.536 about $48. 01:27:20.560 --> 01:27:22.056 Yeah, I looked at it roughly. It's about 01:27:22.080 --> 01:27:24.695 $48 at and and and the bottom line is 01:27:24.719 --> 01:27:26.215 you 01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:28.376 you can't you can put a monetary figure 01:27:28.400 --> 01:27:29.976 to it, but it's it's much greater than 01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.776 that. It's it's not monetary. Um, that 01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:34.135 they give this time the benefits 01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:36.135 considerably higher than this and that. 01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:38.856 They give connections, they um 01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:40.936 involvement, commership, belonging. It's 01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:43.655 it's a as good a value to them as it to 01:27:43.679 --> 01:27:46.376 the people that they volunteer to help. 01:27:46.400 --> 01:27:47.816 And it is about connections. It's 01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:48.856 something I was talking about the 01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:50.776 visitor information center. People want 01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:52.936 to talk to locals. They want to feel 01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:54.695 that they're they're valued and that's 01:27:54.719 --> 01:27:57.096 what the volunteers bring. So, it's 01:27:57.120 --> 01:27:58.776 very, you know, I mean, you put a dollar 01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:00.456 figure on it, but that's that's a tricky 01:28:00.480 --> 01:28:02.536 thing to do that. and it is off the 01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:04.135 volunteering Australia benefits 01:28:04.159 --> 01:28:07.016 calculator which it's a very difficult 01:28:07.040 --> 01:28:09.655 thing to put a value on. I' I'd say it's 01:28:09.679 --> 01:28:12.679 considerably higher than that overall. 01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:14.776 Thank you, Councelor Dorsey. Councelor 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:15.736 Lynch, 01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.760 I was just going to say again the um 01:28:18.960 --> 01:28:21.736 the community feedback and consultation 01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:23.416 report here about the sort of social 01:28:23.440 --> 01:28:25.496 media stuff is really comprehensive. 01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.336 It's a great read, packed of 01:28:27.360 --> 01:28:28.776 information. So, thank you very much for 01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:31.800 that. It's really quite illuminating. um 01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:35.096 you know you you can have you can have a 01:28:35.120 --> 01:28:37.416 look at one side of Facebook but then 01:28:37.440 --> 01:28:38.615 you have a look at this side of it and 01:28:38.639 --> 01:28:40.215 you go oh yeah great right well there's 01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:41.576 a hell hell of a lot more going on 01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:43.816 that's positive and a good space so um 01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:46.536 thank you for the report 01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:48.215 thank you councelor Lynch any other 01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.856 comments I'll just make one quick 01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:52.615 comment um to say a big thank you to the 01:28:52.639 --> 01:28:54.135 volunteers that did the cruise ships 01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:56.376 this year um who worked tirelessly and 01:28:56.400 --> 01:28:58.695 also um a mayor Tenny Brumy for the 01:28:58.719 --> 01:29:00.615 amount of work she's put in in greeting 01:29:00.639 --> 01:29:02.456 cruise ships this season. So, a big 01:29:02.480 --> 01:29:04.376 thank you to those. Any other comments 01:29:04.400 --> 01:29:06.135 around the table? No, we'll put that one 01:29:06.159 --> 01:29:07.655 to the motion. All those in favor, 01:29:07.679 --> 01:29:09.896 please raise your right hand. Beautiful. 01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:12.920 That's unanimous. Thank you. 01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:18.840 Okay. Going to page 192. There's a 01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:20.695 recommendation there that council adopt 01:29:20.719 --> 01:29:22.856 the revised election caretaker period 01:29:22.880 --> 01:29:25.880 policy um as per attach. Could I have a 01:29:26.159 --> 01:29:27.416 mover for that? Thank you, Councelor 01:29:27.440 --> 01:29:29.416 Grave. Councelor Dorsey in seconding 01:29:29.440 --> 01:29:31.096 that. Councelor Grave, did you have any 01:29:31.120 --> 01:29:34.120 comments? No. Councelor Dorsey? No. Any 01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:38.215 comments around the table? No. I'll put 01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:39.576 that one to the motion. All those in 01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:41.496 favor, please raise your right hand. 01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:44.520 That's unanimous. Thank you. 01:29:46.400 --> 01:29:49.336 Page 200, there's a recommendation there 01:29:49.360 --> 01:29:51.175 that council adopt the revised risk 01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:53.576 management policy as tabled and the 01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:55.896 revised revised risk management 01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:57.736 framework as tabled. Could I have a 01:29:57.760 --> 01:29:59.976 move? Thank you, councelor Keygan and 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:01.976 councelor Boyd. Councelor Keygan, do you 01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:04.615 have any comments? Councelor Boyd? No. 01:30:04.639 --> 01:30:06.856 Anyone from the table? 01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:09.256 No. All those in favor, please raise 01:30:09.280 --> 01:30:12.215 your right hand. That's unanimous. Thank 01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:15.239 you. 01:30:17.360 --> 01:30:19.896 Page 223 is a recommendation there that 01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:21.576 council adopt the treasury management 01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:23.896 policy as per attached. Could I have a 01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:26.456 mover for that? 01:30:26.480 --> 01:30:28.056 Thank you councelor Aitken. Councelor 01:30:28.080 --> 01:30:29.896 Keygan seconding. Councelor Aitken. Any 01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:31.175 comments? 01:30:31.199 --> 01:30:33.576 Thank you. Councelor Keygan. Anyone from 01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:35.736 the table? Councelor Dorsey. 01:30:35.760 --> 01:30:37.175 I think it's in here. I didn't write a 01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:40.199 page number. Um 01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:42.456 the interest we're receiving now. I 01:30:42.480 --> 01:30:43.655 don't know if that's luck or good 01:30:43.679 --> 01:30:45.816 management or whatever, but I've always 01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:47.416 thought that we weren't receiving enough 01:30:47.440 --> 01:30:49.655 money. It might be that we're now 01:30:49.679 --> 01:30:52.456 getting 4.1% on our money as opposed to 01:30:52.480 --> 01:30:55.480 3.5% before. That increase on the amount 01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:57.736 of money that we have right now is 01:30:57.760 --> 01:30:59.736 156,000 01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:02.456 over a year. So, it's considerable and 01:31:02.480 --> 01:31:03.896 it's something I've brought up numerous 01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:05.496 times that we're not getting enough 01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:06.695 money for the money that we've got in 01:31:06.719 --> 01:31:08.296 the bank. So, I don't know if this was 01:31:08.320 --> 01:31:10.296 deliberate or luck. Could the general 01:31:10.320 --> 01:31:13.320 manager please advise Sure. 01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:19.496 What what I will say councelor Dorsey 01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:21.976 is that we put a lot of work in in 01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:25.000 recent months around um our cash flow 01:31:25.120 --> 01:31:27.736 management and and that then allows us 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:30.760 to invest money with more um I'm 01:31:31.040 --> 01:31:34.040 assurityity and so subsequent to this 01:31:34.400 --> 01:31:36.376 policy being drafted and developed we 01:31:36.400 --> 01:31:38.296 we have now you invested some money 01:31:38.320 --> 01:31:39.976 through term deposits which we haven't 01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:41.976 you had for you know in this council for 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:43.976 quite some time. um we've relied you 01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:47.000 know on on call um you know rates 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:50.056 through through our account so I think 01:31:50.080 --> 01:31:51.576 um our steps are heading in the right 01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:54.215 direction to maximize um interest and 01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:56.215 interest income through a variety of 01:31:56.239 --> 01:31:57.896 means u moving forward 01:31:57.920 --> 01:32:00.456 that's great substantial 01:32:00.480 --> 01:32:03.096 earnings are substantial 01:32:03.120 --> 01:32:05.016 thank you councel Dorsey any other 01:32:05.040 --> 01:32:06.776 questions 01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:08.296 great I'll put that to the motion all 01:32:08.320 --> 01:32:09.736 those in favor please raise your right 01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:12.760 hand that's unanimous thank Thank you. 01:32:15.040 --> 01:32:18.040 Go to page 236. There's a recommendation 01:32:18.080 --> 01:32:19.736 there that council adopt the revised 01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:22.215 related party disclosure policy as per 01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:25.239 attached. Could I have a mover? Council 01:32:25.280 --> 01:32:27.976 Dorsey and seconded councelor Peas. 01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:30.536 Councelor Dorsey. Any comments? 01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:33.256 Councelor Peas. No. Any others from the 01:32:33.280 --> 01:32:34.776 floor? 01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:36.776 No. I'll put that to the motion. All 01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:38.536 those in favor, please raise your right 01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:40.215 hand. 01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:43.239 That's unanimous. Thank you. 01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:47.976 Page 249. There's a recommendation there 01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:50.215 that council adopt the revised financial 01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:52.695 hardship assistance policy as per 01:32:52.719 --> 01:32:55.496 attach. Could I have a mover? Thank you. 01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:58.456 Councelor Pe seconded. Councelor Keygan. 01:32:58.480 --> 01:33:00.135 Any comments? Councelor Peas. 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:01.336 I was just going to say for the benefit 01:33:01.360 --> 01:33:03.256 of the public, we have discussed most of 01:33:03.280 --> 01:33:04.856 these workshops and policy. We're not 01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:07.880 just sort of breezing over them. 01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:09.655 Thank you councelor Peas. That is 01:33:09.679 --> 01:33:12.679 correct. 01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:16.199 Thank you. Any further comments? 01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:18.056 Oh, great. I'll put that one to the 01:33:18.080 --> 01:33:20.215 vote. Everyone in favor, please raise 01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:23.175 your right hand. Carried unanimously. 01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:26.199 Thank you. 01:33:27.040 --> 01:33:29.175 Page 258. There's a recommendation there 01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:30.936 that council adopt the new use of 01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:33.736 artificial intelligence policy as per 01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:35.736 attached. Could I have a mover? 01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:37.816 Councelor Aitken. Thank you. Councelor 01:33:37.840 --> 01:33:40.840 Grave. Nearly called you Gravy then. 01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:42.936 just did. Anyway, councelor Grave, thank 01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:45.960 you. Any comments, councelor Aitken? 01:33:47.679 --> 01:33:49.816 Yeah, it's probably like you said as a 01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:52.695 comment. Um, 01:33:52.719 --> 01:33:55.496 a bit of a 01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:58.056 something that frustrates me is when I 01:33:58.080 --> 01:34:00.376 read things from counselors that are 01:34:00.400 --> 01:34:03.400 written by by AI. 01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:06.840 um especially social media posts that 01:34:07.040 --> 01:34:09.416 are supposed to be heartfelt 01:34:09.440 --> 01:34:11.576 and you can put them into an AI checker 01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:14.600 and it's written by AI. So 01:34:15.360 --> 01:34:18.360 um yeah, I just think it's very ingen u 01:34:20.080 --> 01:34:23.080 very disingenuous 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:26.199 if you use AI to write a heartfelt 01:34:28.800 --> 01:34:31.800 post on social media and um yeah it it's 01:34:33.040 --> 01:34:36.040 pretty pretty shallow really. Thank you. 01:34:36.080 --> 01:34:37.896 Thank you councelor Aitken. councelor 01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:38.936 Keygan. 01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:41.256 Yeah, thank you. Just a couple questions 01:34:41.280 --> 01:34:44.280 on this one. the scope 01:34:44.719 --> 01:34:47.719 um I notice is not 01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:50.840 extended to counselors. Um was there 01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:55.336 reasoning behind 01:34:55.360 --> 01:34:57.576 that? 01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.256 Thank you councelor Keygan. I'll pass 01:34:59.280 --> 01:35:02.280 that to you. Yeah. 01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:09.000 Yeah. Um through you deputy mayor. Um 01:35:11.120 --> 01:35:13.816 any council policy should apply to 01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:16.840 council laws as well. Um so in that fact 01:35:17.360 --> 01:35:19.576 the intent of the policy is yes it would 01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:21.336 also 01:35:21.360 --> 01:35:24.360 be be for council laws to follow. 01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:27.960 Okay. Um in other policies there's been 01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:32.199 specificity around the scope and that it 01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:35.239 actually applies to counselors as well. 01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:38.920 So I just wonder if we need to amend the 01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:42.920 recommendation to address that or if we 01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:46.760 can pass it and you can 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:51.416 through you deputy mayor. I I think that 01:35:51.440 --> 01:35:53.175 is my enough change that we could just 01:35:53.199 --> 01:35:54.776 adopt that as part of the policy if the 01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:56.135 table was comfortable. It wouldn't need 01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:57.416 an amendment. 01:35:57.440 --> 01:36:00.215 Okay. Um 01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:02.776 thank you for that. 01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:05.800 I had a couple of other polic couple 01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:09.416 of other questions in terms of the sorry 01:36:09.440 --> 01:36:12.440 I'm just trying to find 01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.336 in the actual policy itself page two 01:36:15.360 --> 01:36:18.360 of three so 263 of our agenda 01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:22.600 4.3 talks about transparency 01:36:22.639 --> 01:36:25.639 and that council and councilors will now 01:36:26.400 --> 01:36:29.400 be transparent about the use and 01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:32.520 purpose of AI systems etc. Um, how will 01:36:33.920 --> 01:36:36.920 that be communicated to the public? I 01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:39.896 know on for example social media 01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:42.920 platforms where AI has been used or AI 01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:46.856 images have been generated there's a 01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:49.880 little disclaimer um that is now 01:36:50.320 --> 01:36:53.320 required to provide um how within this 01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:58.376 policy how will that transparency take 01:36:58.400 --> 01:37:00.615 place? 01:37:00.639 --> 01:37:03.416 So through your deputy mayor um in in 01:37:03.440 --> 01:37:05.336 the policy it simply states that it 01:37:05.360 --> 01:37:06.695 needs to be controlled and maintained. 01:37:06.719 --> 01:37:08.856 So at this point in time we haven't 01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:11.736 defined what AI systems we're going to 01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:13.896 use as a council. So at the moment we 01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:16.536 don't utilize AI because in fact we 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:19.175 don't have this policy in place. So the 01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:20.936 next steps of this would be dependent on 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:23.416 the type of AI that we use and and in 01:37:23.440 --> 01:37:24.776 the policy it states there's different 01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:26.695 types whether that be generative or or 01:37:26.719 --> 01:37:28.296 database 01:37:28.320 --> 01:37:31.095 um um AIS 01:37:31.119 --> 01:37:33.336 that will determine what we do. So as we 01:37:33.360 --> 01:37:36.360 go to implement a AI system into the 01:37:36.639 --> 01:37:38.376 council operation that would form part 01:37:38.400 --> 01:37:40.215 of that workplace procedure and how that 01:37:40.239 --> 01:37:43.239 was used and when and how we would tell 01:37:43.440 --> 01:37:45.576 the community that we were utilizing AI 01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:48.600 in that in that information. Mhm. Yep. 01:37:49.360 --> 01:37:52.215 Excellent. Um, just for the public's 01:37:52.239 --> 01:37:54.536 benefit, those listening at home and 01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:56.695 those in the gallery, I know that we 01:37:56.719 --> 01:37:59.719 have had some of these discussions in 01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:02.135 workshops and I've outlined some of the 01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:03.736 concerns that I have related to the 01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:06.760 ethics and the environmental impacts um 01:38:07.040 --> 01:38:10.040 of the use of AI systems and and models. 01:38:10.719 --> 01:38:13.719 And um while AI I think can and it's 01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:17.880 outlined in this um paper and in the 01:38:18.480 --> 01:38:21.480 policy while AI systems can help model 01:38:23.440 --> 01:38:25.496 data in relation to you know 01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:27.976 environmental concerns and and the like 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:31.000 there is also a lot of information 01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:33.655 coming out now about the environmental 01:38:33.679 --> 01:38:35.736 concerns that AI itself is actually 01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:38.760 causing particularly in relation to the 01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:41.736 large data centers that house the AI 01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:44.456 servers. Um they use excessive amounts 01:38:44.480 --> 01:38:47.480 of clean drinking water. Um the UN 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.615 estimates that already AI infrastructure 01:38:50.639 --> 01:38:53.175 consumes six times more water than 01:38:53.199 --> 01:38:56.056 Denmark each year which is a country of 01:38:56.080 --> 01:38:59.016 6 million people. So the equivalent of 01:38:59.040 --> 01:39:02.040 36 million people in a year. Um and 01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:05.175 additionally they 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:08.199 use massive amounts of electricity 01:39:08.400 --> 01:39:11.400 which um in many many countries um is 01:39:12.320 --> 01:39:14.615 generated using fossil fuels. So it 01:39:14.639 --> 01:39:16.296 actually exacerbates the very 01:39:16.320 --> 01:39:19.095 environmental problems that we are 01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:22.119 potentially using it to um solve. Um, 01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:26.215 and for example, a request made through 01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:28.776 chat GPT, which I know quite a lot of 01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:31.416 people use just off the cuff now to 01:39:31.440 --> 01:39:34.376 answer anything, um, consumes 10 times 01:39:34.400 --> 01:39:36.695 more electricity than a simple Google 01:39:36.719 --> 01:39:39.719 search. So there's also additional 01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:42.376 concerns um, in that much of the data 01:39:42.400 --> 01:39:44.615 and the modeling and the categorization 01:39:44.639 --> 01:39:46.936 of AI information is actually done by 01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:48.936 exploited workers in developing and 01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:51.960 third world countries. Um and it's my 01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.376 very strong view that council should be 01:39:54.400 --> 01:39:57.400 considering these types of issues in its 01:39:58.159 --> 01:40:01.095 implementation and its investigation of 01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:04.119 what AI systems um it actually ends up 01:40:05.360 --> 01:40:07.655 implementing in the future. And I and I 01:40:07.679 --> 01:40:09.095 think that there needs to be some really 01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:12.119 tight controls over the transparency as 01:40:12.719 --> 01:40:14.376 well around that and how that's 01:40:14.400 --> 01:40:17.016 communicated to our community because I 01:40:17.040 --> 01:40:19.816 know that there are significant um 01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:21.816 sections of our community that do have 01:40:21.840 --> 01:40:24.536 some very serious concerns about where 01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:26.615 this technology is going in terms of 01:40:26.639 --> 01:40:28.215 environmental and ethical 01:40:28.239 --> 01:40:29.816 considerations. 01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:31.736 Thank you, Councelor Keygan. 01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:34.760 councelor Dorsey. Um 01:40:36.320 --> 01:40:37.655 well what councelor Keygan said it's 01:40:37.679 --> 01:40:39.976 true there's it does use a lot of water 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:42.615 it does use a lot of power and I think I 01:40:42.639 --> 01:40:43.976 can't remember the I don't know if it 01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:46.056 was 2 or 4% of the world's power will be 01:40:46.080 --> 01:40:49.080 generate will be driving data centers 01:40:49.119 --> 01:40:50.536 and I was talking to one of my sons 01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:52.215 today and we were talking how many 01:40:52.239 --> 01:40:54.536 photos he has 3,000 photos or whatever 01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:56.695 they're all stored in the cloud we're 01:40:56.719 --> 01:40:59.016 all guilty you know how many how many 01:40:59.040 --> 01:41:01.336 how many gigabytes does that take up and 01:41:01.360 --> 01:41:02.936 she's right about how much that does. 01:41:02.960 --> 01:41:05.736 Now she said third world it's driven by 01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:07.336 third worlds and most data centers are 01:41:07.360 --> 01:41:09.175 in the US and then the next is followed 01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:11.095 by Germany, United Kingdom and China, 01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:13.095 Canada and France. There's a big 01:41:13.119 --> 01:41:16.119 movement in Australia in particularly in 01:41:16.560 --> 01:41:19.016 Victoria and New South Wales where 01:41:19.040 --> 01:41:21.736 they're trying to entice data centers to 01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:24.760 them because it creates jobs and 01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:27.896 so forth. Now I'm a real believer. I 01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:30.920 love it, you know, and and Damian 01:41:31.360 --> 01:41:33.576 answered that earlier. Um, on which one 01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:35.576 we're going to use. I don't use chat and 01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:36.936 I've told people I've got a membership 01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:39.175 to Claude, you know, and instead of 01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:41.256 doing a search, I just type it into 01:41:41.280 --> 01:41:42.936 Claude and it just gives me the answer 01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:45.016 and it's intuitive and it's reactionary 01:41:45.040 --> 01:41:48.040 and it actually learns and 01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:51.416 it it's it's fascinating and you know, 01:41:51.440 --> 01:41:53.655 so I think not using it is more to our 01:41:53.679 --> 01:41:55.496 detriment than using it. It's like 01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:56.776 saying, "I'm not going to use electric 01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:59.655 cars." Why why would you do that? Um, 01:41:59.679 --> 01:42:01.976 this is this is a great tool. It can be 01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:04.695 used, you know, as is true with 01:42:04.719 --> 01:42:05.816 anything. It can be used for 01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:07.256 maliciousness, but it can be used for 01:42:07.280 --> 01:42:10.280 good and it can it can save time and it, 01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:13.560 you know, I mean, I did talk to Mr. 01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:16.615 Hearn at the time that when he wrote the 01:42:16.639 --> 01:42:18.376 policy for AI, I don't know why he 01:42:18.400 --> 01:42:21.400 didn't just give it to AI to write, 01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:24.520 which it it really it would take 2 01:42:26.320 --> 01:42:28.296 minutes 01:42:28.320 --> 01:42:30.296 and then you modify it and you fix it. 01:42:30.320 --> 01:42:31.976 But why would you go through all the 01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:33.496 trouble of doing all the searches, going 01:42:33.520 --> 01:42:34.936 to all the different councils, finding 01:42:34.960 --> 01:42:36.695 out what their AI policy, go to legat 01:42:36.719 --> 01:42:38.536 and find out what their AI policy? You 01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:40.456 could spend three days doing it or you 01:42:40.480 --> 01:42:43.416 could give it to Claude and in two 01:42:43.440 --> 01:42:45.655 minutes you'd have an AI policy that 01:42:45.679 --> 01:42:48.679 meets the STA Tasmanian standards. So in 01:42:49.040 --> 01:42:50.936 that way it'll free up that much more of 01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:52.856 your time so you can do valuable things 01:42:52.880 --> 01:42:54.695 for the community. And that's true with 01:42:54.719 --> 01:42:56.536 you know um the general manager when he 01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:58.695 answers a motion put the motion in there 01:42:58.719 --> 01:43:01.719 and say what is and you can correct it 01:43:02.080 --> 01:43:03.416 but it'll save you doing all the 01:43:03.440 --> 01:43:06.440 research to write it. So I do know that 01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:08.776 there are sections of the council that 01:43:08.800 --> 01:43:11.336 are using it and it is intuitive and 01:43:11.360 --> 01:43:13.496 they're learn and they're teaching it 01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:15.336 because it is intuitive and it is and it 01:43:15.360 --> 01:43:18.360 does learn. So 01:43:18.960 --> 01:43:21.960 do we it's here. So either you use it or 01:43:22.719 --> 01:43:24.856 you you you come up with with reasons 01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:27.256 not to use it but the reasons to use are 01:43:27.280 --> 01:43:28.776 much greater than the reasons not to 01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:31.416 because that's just my opinion on it. 01:43:31.440 --> 01:43:33.256 And like I said, there's a big movement 01:43:33.280 --> 01:43:36.280 and even um Cradle Coast is looking for 01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:39.416 sites for AI. 01:43:39.440 --> 01:43:40.776 I think that was brought up at a 01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:42.695 meeting. I know the law system council 01:43:42.719 --> 01:43:45.719 is um I know that we've reviewed a data 01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:48.840 center for here. So, which uses less 01:43:49.280 --> 01:43:52.280 water because it's colder here. Um 01:43:52.639 --> 01:43:55.639 Veridian, was that who it was? 01:43:56.880 --> 01:43:57.496 Yeah. 01:43:57.520 --> 01:43:59.736 Yeah. Fidian. Now, I see the building 01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:01.095 still for rent. So obviously they 01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:04.119 haven't found a or is it is it going in? 01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:06.056 Yeah. So sorry that was in close 01:44:06.080 --> 01:44:08.536 session. So yes 01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:10.936 oh it was public knowledge. Yeah that 01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:12.135 the data center has been considered 01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:13.816 here. 01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:16.840 That's it I think. Um embrace and use. 01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:20.056 Thank you councelor Dorsey. Council 01:44:20.080 --> 01:44:20.856 Lynch. 01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:23.880 no I I've hearing hearing valid 01:44:24.239 --> 01:44:26.456 points um all around the room. The valid 01:44:26.480 --> 01:44:28.776 point for me in this and it was 01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:30.056 discussed in the workshop the other 01:44:30.080 --> 01:44:33.080 night is that we are not surrendering to 01:44:33.440 --> 01:44:36.440 AI and that we will have human oversight 01:44:37.040 --> 01:44:40.040 over um every policy and um or service 01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:42.936 or whatever it is that we're trying to 01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:44.936 approve. And I think that's um that's 01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:47.175 the critical aspect here is that we must 01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:50.199 make sure that um that the all 01:44:50.560 --> 01:44:53.560 actions and services of council um 01:44:54.480 --> 01:44:57.480 are compliant and both ethically as 01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:00.936 well as legally. 01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:02.776 Thank you, Councelor Lynch. Any other 01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:04.296 comments? 01:45:04.320 --> 01:45:05.816 All good. We'll put that one to the 01:45:05.840 --> 01:45:07.496 motion. All those in favor raise your 01:45:07.520 --> 01:45:10.215 right hand. It's unanimous. Thank you 01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:12.936 very much. 01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:15.496 Page 265, there's a recommendation there 01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:17.256 that council review the new private 01:45:17.280 --> 01:45:19.416 works policy as presented for 01:45:19.440 --> 01:45:21.416 endorsement. Could I have a mover? Thank 01:45:21.440 --> 01:45:23.336 you. Councelor Dorsey and Councelor 01:45:23.360 --> 01:45:25.095 Boyd. Councelor Dorsey, did you have any 01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:27.976 comments? Councelor Boyd? No. Anyone 01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:30.456 else? All good. All those in favor, 01:45:30.480 --> 01:45:32.856 please raise your right hand. 01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:35.880 It's unanimous. Thank you. 01:45:37.600 --> 01:45:40.056 Page 271. There's a recommendation there 01:45:40.080 --> 01:45:41.816 that the unconfirmed minutes of the 01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:43.655 meeting of the Burnie City Youth Council 01:45:43.679 --> 01:45:46.215 held on the 26th of March 2026 be 01:45:46.239 --> 01:45:47.896 received and noted. Could I have a 01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:49.655 mover, please? Thank you, Councelor 01:45:49.679 --> 01:45:52.679 Dorsey. Secer, Councelor Boyd. Thank you. 01:45:53.840 --> 01:45:56.695 Any comments? 01:45:56.719 --> 01:45:58.615 Right. Great. All those in favor, please 01:45:58.639 --> 01:46:00.776 raise your right hand. 01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:03.800 That's unanimous. Thank you. 01:46:04.159 --> 01:46:06.456 And there are no non-aggenda items. So 01:46:06.480 --> 01:46:08.776 there being no further business, I will 01:46:08.800 --> 01:46:11.800 declare the meeting closed at 8:54. 01:46:12.719 --> 01:46:15.719 Thank you very much.